What price religion -Habul Hanza of the roc Chrysostomos II

wanderer


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Message Posted:
28/01/2010 20:04

http://beta.cyprus-mail.com/features/when-church-weighs-sledgehammer/20100124

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
28/01/2010 20:25

Very interesting article! Not much seems to have changed in the South since Makarios or the days when the Ottoman Turks found it very necessary to hang some bishops. The "Holy Church" in the South will ruin a possible solution to the Cyprus problem (again) - which after all was started and supported by a bunch of unholy 'men of god' and some military adventurers.

Maz


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Message Posted:
28/01/2010 23:21

I felt compelled to post a response to that article, because I feel disgusted that the church should misuse its power and message for purposes of oppression! The guy who started it all talked of love, peace, forgiveness etc, etc, which the church has overlooked.

As I said to some friends 'When the church prays -forgive us our trespasses as we forgive them that tresspas against us - are they referring to Larnaca airport, the power stations, roads and hospitals which are on former TClands?' Or do they not even believe in forgiveness, but vengeance.

Warped way of propogating truth!

Groucho



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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 07:36

Habul Hanza would like it known that he is no relation to Abu Hamza the mad ex-nightclub bouncer turned venomous 'cleric' of notorious repute.

Rottolover



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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 08:29

“Of course the Church must offer guidance in spiritual and intellectual matters…and our country’s political situation falls under that category. There’s a fine line: yes, the Church should have a say in political affairs, but at the same time it should not be political. By that I mean it should not be partisan or reflect the views of certain quarters. The Church must cater to all of its flock, not a part of it.”



Unfortunately, this gobbledegook is typical of officers in any organised religion. Why MUST it offer guidance, who is qualified to offer that guidance, why should the church have a say in political affairs, and how on earth can a "say" in political affairs not be political?! It should not be partisan?! Is he kidding? And the last statement about catering to all of its flock, not a part of it? Is he trying to claim that some of his flock aren't GCs? Perhaps even some may be TCs?? Gobbledegook.



This is just one further example of how organised religion can be a Very Bad Thi

Troodo


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 08:49

Another shock for the EU, they thought they had let a Christian state into the club.

rigsby


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 12:17

Religion, A stick to beat the working man.

Maz


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 19:51

Hi there, Rotto Lover - as one who was attached to the church at Freo, I know what you are saying.

It really makes me sad, sad, sad, that the messageof the church is misconstrued, misrepresented, and misguided.

Someone has buried truth and replaced it with political expedience. I guess, if you read the words of Jesus - some poor bloke who walked all over the land telling people how tolive their lives in LOVE, you might see just how different his thinking was to that of today's representatives of him.





Shame - innit? So when are we going to have coffee together in The Dome, Freo???

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 20:15

The world wants to be cheated (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur") - and "the next life" is a moneymaking, popular subject. And this is for Marions: (...) some poor bloke who walked all over the land telling people how to (...). He was just one of the many like-minded before and after him. The result: Sing and praise on Sunday, cheat on Monday, eh? I feel fine in the company of Friedrich Nietzsche.

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 21:07

Sorry Marion, but I'd rather read the words of Richard Dawkins...he seems to make much better sense.



If you are in Freo at the same time as we are, I'd love a strong flat white with you, even in the Dome...