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cooper


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Hi all, have started part 5 to save Lem the trouble.



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Lemtich



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Cheers for that, old buddy.



Just on a different thought. The Kavanlar development in its various stages appears to be mostly bought up by the British. That adds up to quite a sizeable contingent in Alsancak.



I know most of us are probably not going to be there most of the time but could we not set up an internet site just for residents?



You could exchamge views, gripes, help, contacts, messages etc



kavankoyvillage.com perhaps



Lem



wysiwyg


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Great idea Lem, we would certainly support this.



It may be good as part of this to invite /pool ideas on what we want from future maintenance not leave a provider to tell us what we can get for a price? No disrespect MEPS if you are a contributor here. We have recieved nothing yet to introduce MEPS service just heard costs to the pioneers in phase 1 and rumours of how much cheaper it will be in phase 2 - for what? Is there a spec that could be emailed from any phase 1 or 2 buyers please to give us a start point? (Tonyro@live.co.uk )



Is this an area that all phases could unite on from day 1 to get the best quality/value wherever we come from?



This may encourage a more positive attitude from owners as well as protect our investments. We would certainly sign up to that!



We could have pages for Kavankoy contracts, build stage, snagging,maintenance, penalty clauses, quality complaints, areas for improvement like safety and security, FAQs and Help? Sounds like a goodun to us!



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Would you let some neighbours nearby, up the hill from you on the monarch site. As I know of 6 or 7 brit owners are on this site. Thanks



scampy



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Hi All

I spoke to HP the other day about me doing the Management on phase 2 being as I have done this job for 5 years and have lived in Alsancak for 7 years

Let me know what you think

Susie x



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Hi Lem,



If you would like us to build you a site for the Kavankoy residents in Alsancak, we could do this for you a basic site would cost 150 this would include domain name registration, hosting and design.

Design - 115.00

Hosting - 25.00 for 1 years hosting

Domain name - 10.00 for 2 years

this is for a basic site, your site will probably need to be more database driven, as soon as you know the exact specifications and requirements for your site we could then discuss prices for extras e.t.c



for more info email stay@wish2rent.co.uk



Lemtich



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This idea for a website for owners might be something that can be incorporated into a new maintenance contract as a cost shared by residents of the individual phases. On Phase one 150 devided by 30 units equals a 5 each.



Lem



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I would support this also. I think it would give some structure to the posts. I like this site appearance mind. I think its user friendly and attractive.

Scampy's input could be a real bonus.

Maybe discussions also around things like poolside chairs/recliners. If we all get our heads together it could be a joint venture rather than looking bare or mismatched. Even if we don't get a bar/cafe like originally planned maybe if we organise well enough we could have one thro the main season if others wanted it - could be a nice studenty job for someone but i haven't a clue of the implications of course like stocking a bar with the all important cider.... lol

oh i can't wait to get over there.

Smudge and the gang



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YAVAS YAVAS



websites ,working partys,poolside bar .



what happened to relax ,balcony ,pool ,efes ...sunstroke



kav



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Hi All, sounds good to me, especialy the Efes.

Does any one know the best place to go to have air con units installed in the other 2 bedrooms and approx how much this will cost ?





Cheers





stusparks



Lemtich



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Try Frank Gillin, I got one for the small bedroom and it cost 246 fully fitted.



http://www.frankandjoan.com/links/sites/franks%20sites/yoko_air_con.htm



Lem



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Thanks Lem,



The prices on the webb site seem very reasonable.





stusparks



Hammers


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hi Kavenkoy,



We won't be arriving until about 8am ish with children! We'll try not to make too much noise, or will you be still up!!

Yes we are buying in phase 2, but as not ready yet are renting apartment in phase 1.

I think this gives us permission to use phase 1 pool!! lol Hammers



kavenkoy


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no problems with time hammers



i dont sleep so will drop you efes as you coming in ,you can sit or swim in pool as long as you dont have west ham towells ,lol



kav



kavenkoy


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yo ho ho phase 1 ers



just had a lovely email from kavanlar closing all paperwork down and getting ready for transfer perhaps





anybody else ?



kav



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Hi Phase 2 guys,



A close friend in Algarve who runs a building company was very impressed with the speciications and finish of our Kavanlar apartment. He had a piece of advice regarding insurance from his own experience. He suggested that we persuade all the residents of our block to use the same building insurers. This way all elements of the block, the roofs, the communal areas like staircases are all covered without argument. I think this is good advice, particularly for the penthouse people. They have a private section of roof for which their insurers would have to take responsibilty. Contracts for the lower apartments specifically exclude the private roof area.



On our last visit we contacted MEPS and spent an hour discussing this issue and they contacted an insurance company whise representative came along to the discussions. They promised a good quote for the block of 6 apartments but we are still waiting. No surprises there but we will try to follow this up in September.



In the meantime, if other occupants of block 9 phase2 get in touch we would like to know their views. If anybody has contacted insurances companies, we would like to hear from them.



cheers to all



niftyduo



Robbie


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Hi Kavenkoy



I just had the same email regarding final payment and paperwork also handing over keys , ive just paid my solicitor final payment to forward on to Ilker.



Yippee



Robbie



Hammers


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Hi kav



That would be great, thanks.

We will arrive just in time to put our family supply of West Ham towels on the sun beds!! lol Hammers



Hammers


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Hi kav



That would be great, thanks.

We will arrive just in time to put our family supply of West Ham towels on the sun beds!! lol Hammers



mackerel


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Has anyone else had an e-mail from fatma saying that they have to pay 5% VAT.

After the full purchase price of the apartments has been paid what other payments have to be made to the GOVT?



mackerel


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Robbie,

Are you phase 1 or 2 ? I presume the payment you are referring to is the GBP2000 held by the solicitor.

Cheers



Lemtich



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I haven't got my permission to purchase through so how can I pay VAT (KDV) on a transfer of title?



I'm also opting to pay the 3% not 6% stamp duty. All in all you have to pay about 8% of the purchase price as VAT and Stamp Duty to the Government.



Lem



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Kevin,

Am I correct in thinking that this(8%) is not payable until there has been transfer of title and is it paid through the developor or the solicitor?

You say that you are opting to pay 3% stamp duty.What is the other option.

Cheers



Lemtich



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Everyone who buys in the TRNC is given a once only option of paying 3% Stamp Duty instead of 6% on a property purchase. If you intended trading up to a villa from an apartment, it would pay to fork out the 6% on the cheaper purchase and keep the 3% option for a more expensive purchase later.



5% is paid as VAT whatever and there is a nominal payment to the local council.



Lem



mackerel


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Thank you sir.



kavenkoy


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a very confused kavanlar have sent me 5 emails today all within 30mins of each other .



erm left hand and right hand ?lol



kav



Hammers


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Hi all,

Has anyone else in phase 2 had an e-mail today from kavanlar attorney, Fatma, asking to pay the 2000 snagging payment. We haven't checked the apartment for snagging and also know that our air cons and white goods have not been fitted yet.

Any advise on what we should do would be appreciated.

Thanks Hammers



stusparks


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Hi,

Yes, had email from Fatma requesting full final paymen + 5% vat

I have replied that 2000 should be retained by my lawyer until proof of title deed division.

Apparently once the vat payment is made a receipt is issued to your lawyer from the vendor which is held until Title deed division.

Then you have the option of 3% or 6% stamp duty +1%.

All very complicated!



stusparks



johnny p


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I think that we should all pay the penultimate 2000.00 when we have seen that everything works. and the cvontract staes that the final 2000.00 should be paid when deeds are handed over or after 3 months of hand over (whichever is the soonest) this is to be held by your solicitor.why are they driving us made for the final payments.



my pal lou in phase 1 has taken out insurance for approx 130.00 per year covering goods to 10.000 and building to 60,000. if only one person in block takes out the insurance they will receive a payout if the whole 6insure

they will rebuild the block.



this sounds good value to me.



Lemtich



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I insured with Gunes Sigorta last September for 130 for 8,000 contents and 70,000 building insurance.



Lem



kavenkoy


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i paid last year a full accident insurance with axa .



12k goods ,80k building (bit o.t.t perhaps) usual fire ,theft ,earthquake and accident etc .



was 144



even covered you against people throwing beer cans onto your balcony ,but not strongbow cans or sudden invasion of west ham supporters ,lol

kav



cooper


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Hi all, you may find this link helpful concerning the V.A.T payment.

http://www.hbpg-trnc.net/documents/KDV_0708.html



Stamp duty is 0.5% of contract price if paid within one month of the contract date.it then increases until it reaches 1.5% if paid after 6 months. however there is currently a ammnesty where you can still pay at the 0.5% rate, how long this will stand for no one knows.



Land Registry Transfer Fee is 6% of contract price but has Lem as pointed out everyone has a one off choice of paying at the reduced rate of 3%.This is payable at the time Deeds are transfered to your name.



Cooper



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Please ignore the second paragrath about stampduty apparently the amnesty no longer stands.



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Has anyone paid their final payment before snagging? Also Fatma has asked me to pay the 5% VAT at the same time as I make the final payment (excluding the GBP2,000 held until transfer).Does this all sound right?



mackerel


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Just got this from my solicitor

28.02.2008



Dear Client,



Re: Payment of VAT.



The General Income and Taxation Department, by using the authority given by 47/92 VAT Act, published and served new instructions by a circular dated 06.02.2008 with ref. No.:GVD.0.00.25/08-324, Circular No:M.M.101/2008.



According to the circular mentioned above, it is ordered that for all the immovable properties which constructed after 01.07.1996, VAT payable will become due on the delivery date of the property to the purchasers.



If you have taken possession of your property, VAT has become payable.



As the new directive of the relevant Department is a by law, it will supersede any conditions of the sale contracts between the Vendors/Constructors and Purchasers.



Current rate of VAT is 5% and the sale price on the contract will be taken as the basis.



If you have taken full possession of your property please pay 5% of the sale price as VAT to the Vendor/Constructor against a receipt, which clarifies that amount paid is for VAT.



mackerel


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Question is what does "taken full possession" mean?



scampy



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Hi All

Full possession is when you have your keys



What does everyone think on the subject of me doing the management??

Susie x



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oh fishy mackarel i have sent you email



kav



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dont think you can scampy .



think you are into meps for at least 1 year



kav



mackerel


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Cod it be possible that the message has gone to the wrong plaice!!!!!!!



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no got it ok mackarel



replied but think it got jetlag coming back to you ?



kav



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Mackerel



Solicitor has no 2000 pounds of mine , i only owed 1250 pounds , and thats been paid.



Snagging will be done when sister comes over next week , he will hand over keys to her as well .



Im going to pay Fatma the KDV.



Hammers



Going on one of your previous post, i believe we will be neighbours im in apartment 4 block 2 of phase 2 .



Robbie



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hi phase 2 guys

i am one of the lucky people who hav a phase 1 property which is finally completed ill c u all out there phase 1 guys



scampy



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Hi All

Meps hasn't got the contract yey

Susie x



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Hi Susie,



Ilker has a MEPS specification for Phase 1, I saw it some time ago. Maybe he has a similar one for phase 2. Can you do better?



How would you feel if you had a Residents committee looking over your shoulder?



It is a fair responsibilty to take on when you live with your clients!



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Hi Susie,



Ilker has a MEPS specification for Phase 1, I saw it some time ago. Maybe he has a similar one for phase 2. Can you do better?



How would you feel if you had a Residents committee looking over your shoulder?



It is a fair responsibilty to take on when you live with your clients!



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Hi Susie,



Ilker has a MEPS specification for Phase 1, I saw it some time ago. Maybe he has a similar one for phase 2. Can you do better?



How would you feel if you had a Residents committee looking over your shoulder?



It is a fair responsibilty to take on when you live with your clients!



niftyduo


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Sorry Guys, I sometimes get click happy



Hammers


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Hi Robbie,



Yes, next door neighbours! see you around



Hammers



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Robbie,

We have numbers 5 & 6 in block 2,phase 2 so we are indeed neighbours. I live in Hong Kong but there will be an english lady living in my aprtment and looking after the other one.She is looking to be the keyholder for other flats if you are interested e-mail me and I will put you in touch.

She is arranging the snagging of my places and doing the furnishing.



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Mackerel



I wonder who is in apartments 1 * 2 ?



Robbie



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Hammers



I lived in central park eastham for years and i used to hear the crowd every saturday from my house.



Robbie



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Hi

I haven't seen the specification from Meps

I did speak to ilker yesterday and he says he is happy for me to take it over if thats what everyone wants

If anyone has the spec can you send it to me

I am happy to have a residents committee

I am call 24/7 anyway as it is

let me know

Susie x



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Hi Susie



You need to put some sort of spec together so residents can make some sort of judgement. How will you handle the IT side? Phase 1 spec includes CCTV, and the cameras are already in place, and a webcam serving a dedicated web site so owners can look in at the site from where ever they are.



Be bold and ask MEPS to see their specification as a phase 2 resident.



Good luck



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nifty



the cameras are not fully completed yet on 1 .



are there to be cameras on phase 2?



kav



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BTTT





Cooper



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What an interesting happening yesterday on Phase 1. Kavanlar's unlovely project manager shouting abuse at one of the residents, followed by threats of physical violence. My, my, methinks he needs a course on anger management - most unsavoury. The matter has been reported to the local police.



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Just back from a wek living in Block Five (E) on phase two. Dide not realise there was a board 5.People are starting to move in and the place is improving all the time. Snagging was done almost immeidately. Ilker was very, very helpful. Workmen sent roound in a very short space of time. They need to be supervised when snagging as they will only do the fault you report unless you get them to check the consequences of their actions. Particularly anthing to do with Solar Panels and water. Apartments are fairly clean and it is possible to clean yourself if you want to. I did over 3/4 days. Water total costs were approxiamately 1400 YTL as you have to have a Council tax receipt before the water can be paid. Took about two hours as they process the council tax (about 80 YTL for everyone on the contract. They then ring you when that is ready and you go pay. Kibtec is 750YTL and then 60. Don't know why one bill was YTL and one was Sterling.







No developments on the roof terraces. A pleasant and non confrontational approach has meant that thouse who were there last week got most things attended to.







To High Priest and Preistess thanks for the Hosiptality and the friendship during the week. No doubt you will read this and post what you thought.







Bill



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re 57



so who is the project manager ?that kavanlar or a meps man ?



kav



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Come on Nostradamus, I'm sure there are more like me waiting with baited breath to find out the identity of the project manager.



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Hi Stickle, ? which floor are you on in block E? We are Apt 6 of D looking at E

Glad that your week went OK and snags got done. Have you had aircon fitted yet? We spotted problem on solar panels on roof of D - what was problem on E?

Tony



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Block E apartment 1. Snags take time as the workers only do what they are told to do but if you watch them and ask them to check what they do it is OK. The problems were that the plumbing was never tested and as soon as water pressure was applied the weak spots leaked. The solar panel had an internal leakage which was replaced but the plumbers did not test the joints when they refitted it. Ilker sent them back and the repair was completed. The aircon will be put when you have your meters. Seems reasonable as there has been no charge for the use of Builders electric and water. However, someone living on phase three has an aircon unit fitted. They are still building above them and the phase is a working building site.



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Hi Stickle,

Did you manage to have your Electricity and water meters installed in the time that you were there.

Also I am in phase 2 block A apart 4. Is anyone else that uses this forum in the same block.



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Electric suposed to be within a month. Water meter will be fitted on demand when I go over again. Ilker had limted electric and water for the time I was there.



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Should you be looking for Car Hire or Insurance for your apartments, my office is just down the road from you 'The Business Centre' , I already insure several apartments on the Kavanar site, please e-mail me and I will let you know the best way to insure apartments in Cyprus or call in and have a chat when you are next over. My Office is to the left of the slip road that comes down to the village road from the apartmens.



Any Questions please don't hesitate to ask.



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Hi,



I haven't send in the last payment yet. Still arguing about the late delivery.... The 2000 GBP wil stay in my account until title deed.



Someone mentioned that the final payment was only 1250 GBP, was this after deduction of late delivery charge?



PS: Bought in bldg 4, appartment 5. Would like to come into contact with other owners to arrange insurance and joint water testing, etc...... Anyone going over in the near future?



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Hi All ,

Just back from Alsancak , spent nearly 3 weeks there , the last one in our apt No. 5 Block E [5] . Ilker was very helpfull , provided us an electricity + water supply + all snags were eventually sorted . Any problem we just had to phone + he sent a plumber , electrician etc. We have no real complaints , everything he promised to do he did + he was very sincere .

We went through the mill a bit re water payment at the Beleydir + electricity at Kibtek . Still havn,t got meters , Ilker is working on it + we will have them on our return in Sept. Although we didnt really need them as we had both with no meter anyway , but that wont go on for ever . Any questions please ask as our place is now complete apart from meters , A/C , pergola + bbq . Pergolas are to be built when the pool one is , they have the bbq,s + need to lift them onto the roof terraces .



GEMA - Geoff + Marion Walmsley have moved permanently into no. 4 , block E . They are both from Yorkshire + a great couple .

THEY ARE OFFERING THE FOLLOWING APARTMENT CARE >



Apartment Care - 10 stg a month for holding a key , weekly check , airing , pay electricity / water bills [providing they have a money float from Customer]



Arrivals / Departures Clean - 35stg inc changing + washing bed linen , laundry cost to be paid extra at cost .



Midway Clean - 20stg . inc changing bed linen .



Welcome Packs - Small / Medium / Large , contents chosen by Customer at extra cost .



Need someone to snag your new property call an expert . Geoff has spent over 50 years in the building trade .



Geoff + Marion are not on line yet but will be soon so email to follow .

In the meantime if you need anything doing , please ring them on



0090 5338445074 .



HP .



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Hi Oldenzeal, we are in apartment 6 Block D (4). We have got a quote from Can Sigorta who were recommended by our solicitor. The quote was not the cheapest at 210 but covers 10K contents, 70K apartment and earthquake cover (snow damage too but thats going a bit too far!). I spoke to Kemal Can the Manager and he said that we would not necesarily need to get all six signed up to cover the whole building for rebuild costs etc



They can give you a quote on line at http://www.cansigorta.com. Mention that we are booked up with them. If they say there will be a discount for 4 out of 6 please let us know. We may not get all six booked up as I believe that 3 of the others are owned by the previous landowner and they may be sold but not yet? Gailforce is also in our block havent asked about insurance?



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Welcome back HP and HPtess - brought the weather with you then -well almost! Glad that E5 is up and running. Geoff and Marion may be a great help. We already value your word on stuff so will talk to them next time we are out.



We have been told that our wrought ironwork has been done on block D - did you notice it going on by any chance? Have they painted the wrought iron on the stairs in your block?



Sept will come round quickly - we may go again then too.

Tony and Bev



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Hi Tony + Bev ,



All your paintwork should now be done , the painter with his yellow dungerees has definitely done your iron work + was putting finishing touches all over the apt . None of the inside iron has been done yet . Thanks for your company ,we had a super time at Aphrodite with you , in fact we went every other evening after that . See you hopefully in Sept .



Duncan + Lynn .



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Hi Suzie ,



Please can you give us a proposal via email re maintenance with every cost broken down . We did some research whilst out there re pool / garden + lighting costs so we have an idea of the figures . We can then give you some feedback .



HP



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So sorry for the delay in replying to Niftyduo and Kavenkoy. The project manager is the ever unlovely Ilker.



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Hi HP,



Welcome back and thanks for the info. You say that you still have no meters for Electric and water. What are the problems for long delay in installation?

No meters, very busy time etc. We will be over for 4 weeks in August and were hoping to move in.





stusparks



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Hi Hp and all

All our iron work has now been painted , I am hoping to move in on Saturday

When I can sort out the costs for you on my own computer instead of my daughters laptop



Re Post 72

Ilker does the best he can for all the customers if you haven't paid thier money it's his job to get that money, that is why none of us on phase 2 can't move in till every penny is paid as there are so many on phase 1 haven't paid and don't pay the maintanence

he tries his best but then you cant please everyone can you ????



you try building that many apartments and keep everyone happy ( not possible )



Susie x



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anyone want to buy top floor apartment , fully furnished , with water and electric up and running(yes !! and everything actually working ) on phase 1??please email mrfowler@tiscali.co.uk

ta



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Re Post 72



Ilker does the best he can for all the customers if you haven't paid thier money it's his job to get that money, that is why none of us on phase 2 can't move in till every penny is paid as there are so many on phase 1 haven't paid and don't pay the maintanence



he tries his best but then you cant please everyone can you ????





just a quick correction for you susie ....your quote is wildly inaccurate and offensive .who do you know on phase1 that has not paid in full for their appartment ?who do you know on phase1 who doesnt pay for their maintenance ?

where do you get your information from ?



well unless you can back up your wild stories then i suggest you publicly appolgise for stating pahse 1 ers dont pay their bills .



kav



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Hi Stu ,

The water meter should be done in a week or so , but they said they need to fit it when the mains water supply is actually running + this has only been twice a week or so recently . Kibtek said there is another wait for electricity meters of about a month . Ilker is doing his best on both . It was a bit tough for us moving in with no aircon so we bought a big fan [ 90ytl ] which enabled us to sleep . Aircon will be fitted as soon as we have a meter . Ilker supplied us with electricity + water .

We stayed at first in the Sempati Hotel , Lapta [ 20 pounds per night for 2 b+b when you book through rates to go website ] + then moved in when furniture/curtains/white goods were delivered + snagging done .

I would recommend having a chat with Geoff + Marion in Block E , Apt 4 when you arrive as they have had all the same experiences as us prior + during moving in .



HP



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Hi Stickle ,



Way Ay man , how are the mossy bites . The only man on the whole complex I bet , who was willing to sleep in his apt with no appliances on the hard tile floor in a sleeping bag . They breed em hard up North . Thats what I call moving in . Good to see you got back safe + thanks for your company . We are looking forward to seeing you + Linda in Sept .



HP



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Hi HP,



Thanks once again for the info. I will contact Geoff & Marion when we arrive.





Stuart



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Bites are healing well . Linda counted them instead of sheep and has fallen asleep before finishing. My ears hurt with the mockery and critiicism from her. (actually she laughed). We have some furniture now but problem with curtains supposedly. Will find out later. Things can only get better. (could be the title of a song?)



Somebody upset someone, somewhere?



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Re Message 76



I got my info sources everywhere, I haven't lived in Cyprus this long to not have contacts in place,



I won't say soory for stating facts, it was on thi board a while ago saying that someone doesn't pay their management fee so that i well known



Susie



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but you say (or hear say) that people on phase1 havent paid for appartments and management company .



if people havent paid why would the site be "lived in" a year later .



as for maintenance i cant comment other than people pay 4mths or 6 up front then dont come over so it makes them 1 0r 2 in arears then clear it .....so its not really owed .



i think another that may effect somebody susie is if a builder in any land agrred a contract and doesnt honour it and signs penalty clauses they should pay their side ,but they dont .



in the case of phase1 several people were put a very large expense with flights ,hotels and additional costs all because people said come over its ready .



is that fair ?



anyway enough of that we all learn from experiences good or bad .



have a nice evening



kav



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Hello everyone,



Just want to let you all know that I am in Northern Cyprus at the moment and staying in my apartment in phase 2 - Block D - there have been a few snagging issues, but to be truthful, wouldn't have been able to sort any of them out if we wasn't here.



The phase is coming along, all in all, even though we have reached the final stages, they seem to be dragging on the most! We have electricity sorted and water is fine (although it will be perm water from tomorrow).



There are a few other couples who have moved in and are living on the phase too.

As mentioned Geoff and Marion, (lovely couple) there is a turkish couple too, and I think another couple who have just moved their furniture in.



I am loving it. The weather is glorious and our apartment is worth the wait! If anyone needs an update please let me know and I will do my best to check things out for you..



Regards from sunny Cyprus x



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Thanks for the update Gailforce



Lem hope you have a great month in the sun, you deserve it after all the good advice & info you have given on the Kavanlar & other threads.



Cooper



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Hi Gailforce, congratulations that you are in and enjoying the apartment already. You are first in block D (4) so we will be all ears about how things go if you have time.

We are concerned that the communal areas like painting the iron work on stairs and woodwork in lobby area are finished soon. Did you do big clean yourselves?

Is your electricity fitted via the meter yet? When did you book it?

Have fun in the sun amongst all the work involved!



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Hi All ,



Didn,t say earlier that we are absolutely thrilled with our apt . We can,t wait till the pool is full , gardens + comunal areas finished etc . Roll on Sept when we can visit again . Please can people who are lucky enough to be there keep the pressure on Kavanlar + let us know of any developments . Thanks Geoff , Marion + Bill for your help + see you soon .



HP



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heard on un official grapevine ilker has broken his arm and is not working now for several weeks ,does any now if this is true?



my advocate told me this ?



we are out next week so if can be of some small assistance then please email or post



kav



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other small matter is that of snagging everything properly .



lam is out last night for firts real holiday for the month .he txt me to say he has no water as pump not right and that his trip switches keep tripping out when he has a couple of things on together .



so please use it and put it all throught its paces before you say yes its done .

(especially aircon and lights together)



i had similar issues with trips in february and insisiting on everything being on together .ilker and his team did sort it all out ,but its the waiting etc as you know



kav



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He had fractured two fingers when I was out there but still working and making sure that snagging in phase two was done promptly.



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When we were there the same thing kept happening with the pumps , they fitted auto boosters to them , if thats the right terminoligy , they then worked fine .



HP



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Hi All

ilker is still working as normal

He has only broke 2 fingers and has took his plaster off over the weekend

Susie x



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many thanks susie



i knew you would know

thanks



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ah well you see not just a dumb blonde after all

Susie x



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kav

If you want you apt cleaned next week just let me know

Susie x



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Hi All,



Sorry to hear that ilker has broken 2 of his fingers but glad to hear that he is recovering and still working.

We will be out on the 2nd August and have arranged to meet ilker on the 4th.

Hopefully to take possession of apt.

From the posts it seems that there is a fair amount of snagging to be done and the work on the site slow.

will post to keep all informed of any progress to site while we are out.

Incidentaly I know it may sound a silly question for this time of the year high temp etc. but does any one know where we can buy a calor gas fire in trnc? as we will be spending christmas and the new year in apt. Well thats the plan anyway.



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thanks susie



but as we phase1 and stayed a few times we have got it sorted thanks .



we have our 2 lads out a week earlier than us now ,we left it clean last month ...will it be clean when we arrive ?,lol



kav



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Hi

My office 'The Business Centre' is just down the road from the Kavanar apartments on the Alsancak village road. I can offer 'Comprehensive Block Insurance' via Turk Sigorta (Insurance) Ltd , which is what I recommend for apartments, Contents insurance is up to each individual apartment owner. I would require some information be be able to let you have a quote over the internet i.e. sq m of each apartment. I am familiar with the first phase but understand that phase two is slightly smaller?

Our office also offers car rental at good rates, and site/apartment management, as well as individual management in readyness for your arrival.

Should you be interested in any of the above please do not hesitate to contact me.



Chrys

The Business Centre



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According to the specifications, phase 2 apartments are 125sq m, slightly smaller than the 130sq m of phase 1. Will the quote be the same for each apartment or will the penthouse apartments pay more to protect their private roof area?



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Do Management Companies have a legal responsibility to provide owners with a set of Accounts at the end of the year? Or is this only applicable in the UK?



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We have installed some extra a/c units in Kavanlar for a customer and will do the same for anyone else there if they want to contact me off board.



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Tony and Bev,



Would like to come in touch with you by email or phone, so we can sort out things like insurance and snagging. I'm planning a trip over in August and wil certainly give a call to Geoff and Marion to see how they can help me out.



Please send me an email on fam_oldenziel@yahoo.com



thanks, Cor



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re message 99



As I run my own property Management company here

The accounts should be available at anytime not just the end of the year



Kav good look with the cleaning



Susie x



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Hi all, ive just started Kavanlar Part 6



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