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Bazaar


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I took my puppie to get neutered 3 weeks ago she was fine after but now it seems she is in season I called the vet he said 100% garentee he took everything out and sometimes this can happen dont know what to believe. Now im worried could she still get pregnant ?



BigMart


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This happened to our puppy too, apparantly this can happen in rare cases. Ours has just come into season for the second time and it seems to be a lot less than the first time, hopefully this will continue to get less each time and eventually stop all together. we too were assured that she cannot become pregnant, just hope he is right.



Martin.



deecyprus4


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Who was the vet? as this happened to Kont our adopted dog...your dog wont get pregnant but she will come into season twice a year, bloody nuisance for all concerned.



the butler


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I am baffled by this, as when I have had my dogs spayed in the UK they never came into season again.

What is the point of having them spayed if you are still going to have dogs hanging around twice a year?

Is it just the method this particular vet uses do you think or is it only a partial procedure?





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Panchocat


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Am guessing that would be Pertev then.

Go to another vet for advice, would recommend Firdez.



julia2345


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We have 2 sister german shepherd both done at the same time one came in season one didnít I have looked on internet and it does say it can happen something to do with slivers of tissue that are still there that starts to grow a little and causes them to come into season but nothing can happen from it donít really understand it but thatís what it says hope this helps



catalkoykid


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it also happens for quickness, they only remove the uterus but leave the ovaries in,cant get pregnant but come into season,we took ours to another vet,she operated but couldn't do anything, once the uterus is removed the ovaries float around the body and being so small very difficult to find,bloody nuisance & a botched job im afraid



catalkoykid


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Ovariectomy (removing only the ovaries), hysterectomy (removing only the uterus) and tubal ligation (tying off the Fallopian tubes) are not acceptable for the female dog. Ovariectomy leaves the uterus in to become infected. Hysterectomy leaves the ovaries to produce hormones that trigger development of mammary cancer and make the female appear to be in season. Tubal ligation leaves both the uterus and ovaries in to cause trouble. When we refer to "spaying," we mean an ovariohysterectomy - surgically removing the uterus and both ovaries.



the butler


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Hi Catalkoykid,



Thanks for the explanation, it is as I thought only a partial job has been done. Unlike in the Uk where everything is removed when a dog is spayed.





The butlers wife



malsancak


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Panchocat, "am guessing that would be Pertev then. Go to another vet for advice, would recommend Firdez."

Why do you believe it was Pertev and why should Bazaar go to Firdez?



Tatum1


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I agree ............ I have had 2 bitches spayed by Pertev and an excellent job was done on each occasion.

Neither one has since come into season and the first was done 3 years ago!!!



catalkoykid


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after you dog has had it done badly its very difficult to put right, she will not get pregnant, but she will be bothered buy dogs twice a year for ever more, just because someone couldn't take the time to do it properly, or maybe to busy



deecyprus4


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I think some vets are just too busy, pertev messed up with our bitch and she comes into season twice a year, he also messed up with a dog we rescued from an empty pool, his attitude was disgraceful...the only vet I would recommend is Sibel ... she has a real love for animals and it isnt just a job to her, cannot praise her or Emma, her assistant highly enough.



JKSLapta


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If an animal has been neutered properly they should not come in to season again. Personally I dont think it sounds like it has been done properly and would suggest you take her to Firdez or Sibel. I know that the vet at Garfields in Lapta neutered my friends dog and didn't do it properly. He got an infection and Firdez had to operate again, so its worth checking just to be sure.



Panchocat


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Alsancak; guessing because Bazaar lives in Girne and she used the male pronoun when referring to said vet.

Firdez is brilliant, I believe Sibel is too.

I merely suggested Firdez as she is Girne based.



deecyprus4


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JKSlapta, we took her to sibel and she tried to sort it out but couldn't. Personally I wouldn't use pertev again ever!



Bazaar


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Hi Thanks for all the replys Some of the comments you have all made the vet hım self saıd to me but dıdnt know whether to believe or not.. Panchocat mess 5 no ıt was not Pertev who done the op.. Feel better knowıng she wont get pregnant.



Tatum1


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It is a good job this is not the UK ........... OTHERWISE 1 person in particular ..... who always has to have a 'pop' at Pertev...... could possibly looking at a libel case!!!!!!!



catalkoykid


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Slander and libel

The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts of slander (harmful statement in a transitory form, especially speech) and libel[5][6] (harmful statement in a fixed medium, especially writing but also a picture, sign, or electronic broadcast), each of which gives a common law right of action.



"Defamation" is the general term used internationally, and is used in this article where it is not necessary to distinguish between "slander" and "libel". Libel and slander both require publication.[7] The fundamental distinction between libel and slander lies solely in the form in which the defamatory matter is published. If the offending material is published in some fleeting form, as by spoken words or sounds, sign language, gestures and the like, then this is slander. If it is published in more durable form, for example in written words, film, compact disc (CD), DVD, blogging and the like, then it is considered libel." The debate whether Internet blogs or Bulletin B



catalkoykid


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The debate whether Internet blogs or Bulletin Boards are publishers is a key subject being addressed, whereas an Internet based community is more akin to conversations in a bar or pub, with content being written as an ongoing dialogue that is generally not edited or regulated such as in the publishing industry.[8]



think you will find you mean defamation, but thats only if its lies



catalkoykid


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and mess 18 we also have in the uk



Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons

Belgravia House

62-64 Horseferry Road

London SW1P 2AF



malsancak


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Believe me, I know from personal experience that local lawyers have no problem suing for defamation of character those whose comments are published online. Even though the commenter is liable and not the publisher, unless the comment is edited that is, local lawyers would find no problem slapping a memorandum on your property in expectation of winning in a long drawn out court case even if there is little chance of it being successful, unless you die and can no longer defend yourself of course; which is probably why the cases here take so long. This ain't the UK, we're in frontier-land folks which is why I personally love it!



deecyprus4


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Tatum shouldn't you stay in your box during sunlight!



petsitter61


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as a pet sitter i have used pertev + sible + ferdiz + garfield when looking after owners dogs they are all good its personal choice they are humans not gods

i know lots of owners who have changed vets because they are not happy



i myself recomend pertev and use him myself for my dog i have also referred pet owners to him who have not been happy with the vet they are using and now they are



Linda



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