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Mollydolly


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Just to warn anyone visiting the Cratos Hotel. We recently visited the Cratos for a meal and asked the waiter for the wine list who then returned with another waiter who then asked us what we wanted. I asked for the wine list but they didnt appear to have one. We ordered a bottle of rose, one which we have had several times from the supermarket there at a cost of 10.50ytl, so we were a little annoyed when we got the bill and they charged 75ytl for the same bottle. It is a very beautiful hotel which we will certainly use again but they should have a wine list available once the restaurant was open, albeit the buffet restaurant. Just be aware



compass


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And they charge 15tl just for a glass of wine so be warned................ All that opulence does not come cheap!!!



Compass



dutty


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Where is this hotel



jamestalbot


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Hi it;s on the east side, Catalkoy way, go past China (Dubai Bazaar) on your left, then when you see the Lemar on your left, it's just after that, can't miss it.



deputydawg


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James, thanks, on my income, I bet I can miss it, deliberately ! Thanks for warning Molly and sorry for your experience there.



dutty


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Is this the new place that has huge conference fascilities. We were over about 7 weeks ago it didn't look finished



walkerscott


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That's far too expensive!

I am going to try the Cratos out shortly. Cyprus premier are offering a 21 day HB with flights and transfers in November for 830 per person. The only hotel in the whole of North Cyprus not to hit the solo traveller during November and December! Well done!



speedster


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hi i found out yesterday at cratos that to use their swimming pool for public cost 80 tl pp.



TheScarlets



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24/08/2010 20:00

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that sounds very reasonable to me



mikea11


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We had a look around it the other evening. We were not that impressed for the pricess they charge. I wouldnt call it opulance. We have stayed at some really good hotels and this would not get on the list of ones to stay at for a special occasion. I very much doubt if the staff are up to standard either. I think it is mainly used at weekends for the casino. The golden lion in the fountain outside just about sums the place up.



proger1



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I bet they are glad to know that most of the C44 users won't want to use the hotel with these prices, I would wager to think that the clientele they are aiming for have a slightly different background but that's just my thoughts on the matter.



I do agree that there should be a wine list though, as for the price increase from what you can but locally, that is pretty standard in hotel restaurants from my experience.



sienna


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24/08/2010 20:27

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oh Paul how do you know that us mortals will not use them. 15ytl for a glass of wine no problem.!!... perhaps I have that 'different' background .......... well I have got promotion and 25% pay rise la de da !!



how much is a meal then ?



proger1



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The drinks are on you then sienna unless of course my planned payrise comes up, come on national bonds, be a winner, just 1,000,000 should do it.



I will find out about a meal in a few weeks but I tend to be too drunk by the end of the night to remember how much things cost, if I have a black eye the next day it is because the wife thought I over spent, or over drank or was over friendly or was over zealous about something.



CJtill


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Also had a look round...at the casino. Pretty spacious and the minimum bet on roulette is $2 which is reasonable as you dont have to break the bank. No doubt the drinks are free for gamblers which is always a positive.

Michael



Lilli



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flipping hell, makes us look cheap. they do not want us there.We went yesterday invited as they are opening an Italian restaurant. Wanted input. the feeling was and said to us we are not interested in the British market. It will be the high rollers who will fund it. It will be an amazing italian restaurant with the budget they have, if the can get the products but i guess with that budget a private jet could bring it in from Italy x



Mollydolly


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Did I read it right Speedster did you mean 80tl or 8 tl for the use of pool at the cratos



CJtill


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As the whole world knows Turkish Cypriots always do it best, thats why they dont need advice from anyone else.

I am suprised they invited Lilli along and asked for advise, as I am sure they will totally ignore it.

When you visit you will see a new off licence on the corner, (same side of the road as Lemar). I heard a rumour that hes paying 500 per month for the rent, plus of course all the add ons. Now I may be a bit stupid but how the hell does he hope to sell the booze cheaper than Lemar? Give it until Xmas.

Michael



Lambousa Gordon


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Ermmm,



re Msg 17: Not one TC involved.



This is a mainland Turkish operation aimed at the very highest of high-rollers. Pricing will be accordingly; assume Claridges, London rather than Dome, Kyrenia.



rcroton


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I went last night at the invitation of a family friend opening a fish restaurant down in the same area as the italian etc. I personally think it will be a fantastic place when completed and should be congratulated. Top quality restaurants are opening there from Turkey. I personally will be a regular for sure



Elliecy


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25/08/2010 16:59

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I'm sure its lovely but as per the original post, why dont they have a wine list? I thought it was law here that all prices had to be displayed?



sienna


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message 15 they will change their mind when they do not get any clients.. its tough place out there ! a bit like the golf club nice place but no atmosphere as no one there! which puts me off going.



Simhar


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or maybe like Tango to Buddha, expensive for drinks but worth every penny and packed most of the time!



rcroton


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Sienna for the last 3 nights it has been very busy, It will do very well i am sure



Chicken


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27/08/2010 16:28

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15TL for a glass of wine is not unusual for this class of hotel. Have a look at the prices in other hotels in the area.



I know this isn't London, but certainly the standard and decor of this hotel can outshine any in central London, and I am certain a glass of wine in one of those establishments would cost much more than 6 per glass, in fact a lot of bars around the UK would charge this.



Sip your 15tl glass of wine and enjoy the ambience and surroundings of this lovely hotel.



Pipie


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27/08/2010 16:51

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Totally agree Chicken . In the UK we visit places and they charge over 5 for a glass of wine and as you say not a patch on the ambience of the Cratos . It is a spectacular hotel and worth a visit .



speedster


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bk to msg 16



Hi Mollydolly, yes 80tl pp, we couldnt believe it when someone told us the price so we told them they must have got it wrong, then we decided to find out ourselves and yes 80tl pp is correct.



rcroton


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Chicken 100% agree. In a few months if will be even better when the restaurants open overlooking the sea



styliana85


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I cant understand that people are complaining on here about the prices of cratos. Obviously a bottle of wine in a 5 star hotel that uses molton borwn and bvylari bath products and has 50 inch plasma in each room is going to be far more expensive than in a cheap supermarket. 75tl for a bottle and 15tl for a glass of wine may seem expensive to someone visiting this island on holiday but try going to any club here. In your local supermarket you may pick up a bottle of vodka for 26tl but go to any club and the same bottle will cost you 200tl. Any drink in the VIP bars will also cost you around 20-25tl. In such a beautiful hotel what else would you expect...



stockiefan


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Jeez, people musy have money to burn!!!



CJtill


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By now everyone reading any thread on Cratos should realise that they are not interested in the ex-pats living in the TRNC....The low spenders and complainers (me included)

I know it is currently Bayram, and as expected the place is heaving with Turkish mainlanders who have no doubt bought a package which included flights and meals. I went to the casino last night after the England\France football match and it was pretty full and the money that was being wagered was quite staggering. All beyond my means.

This is their market, so good luck to them, but if you baulk at 75TL for a bottle of plonk then for heavens sake...STAY AWAY.

Michael.



stellasstar1



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I went their for the Cancer Charity coffee morning, and I have to say the staff were brilliant, they couldn't have been more helpful. Someone came to get my tatty old case from my car, and when I said I was their for the coffee morning, he didn't bat an eye, but took me to the lift, and down to the door of the room we were having. When I left, someone came and took my case out to the car for me. In the actual room, when a couple of us said to the manager it was a bit dark, he went off and put some more lights on for us and came back to ask if that was ok.



I did mention all this to Ian at Chatea Lambousa - I won't tell you what his answer was.



allycatthree


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Its interresting about prices, just returned from a grand holiday, queen vic, venice and orient express. All posh, however, pint on the vic was 3.50 and other drinks/wine resonable. Hotel in Venice, ok No 1 location but 2 gin and tonics and 2 club snacks 75?? a glass of wine on the train 9.50. Next weekend back to good old emilies in bahceli!!



Deniz1


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Message 7 Can we meet up for coffee and cake again? L.



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