Illegal taxis - union up in arms beware

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 20:17

See the taxi owners union is once again up in arms about the number of illegal operators mostly ex pats doing taxi runs to the airports,, you can be sure that the police and border will be doing there best to make life difficult for them again, I cant understand why everybody dont use the legal boys anyway the price is about the same



incoming

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 20:21

What evidence is there to support "...the number of illegal operators mostly ex pats doing taxi runs to the airports.."?

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 20:47

Isn't there already a law in place, instituted by the last government, stipulating that only family members [not even friends!] can be legally driven to and from airports, or didn't it reach the statute book?

yrret


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 761

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 20:55

Ten,

I think when that one reached the colouring in stage someone went over one of the lines and it had to be thrown away.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 20:56

If there is Ten, then what a complete and load of bol**ks law. How can they say you can't pick up a friend from the airport? Do they expect you to lie and say they are family members? I've got friends that I am very close to and consider them to be like brothers to me.

johndp


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Posts: 497

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 21:41

guys it was in the paper today like it or lump it m ock it if you like but some have had the police tell them that if they saw them come over again they would impound there cars this is true care to believe or not and with your smarmy attitudes good on them

sorry but typical of some on here lol :(

LaptaMike


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Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 22:05

johndp, some of us came over here to get away from petty minded bureaucratic bull like that. If you have a friend visiting you in your villa for a few days you can't pick them up from the airport?? And you agree with this?? You must be some sort of high level union boss to agree with that law.

johndp


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Posts: 497

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 22:12

mike better to say nothing and be thought a fool and all that, do you think the Border guards are thickos like some, those who go over five days aweek and pick up 20 people and oh yes sir they are all our freinds and are staying wi us GET REAL MAN

And if you believe the TRNC authorities are that stupid then OK

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 22:33

UNITE lets form a union !!!





Expat community goes on strike for the month of October...............NO visits to bars or restaurants.









Untill our demands are met.....................equal rights for all people in the TRNC.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 23:11

johndp, I never in anywhere mentioned in my posts did I mention picking up people as a trade. I said friends.



Obviously it is a case of sour grapes, you expect sandwiches and beer for the boys, you should get real sir.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 00:28

Message 9

Spot on

andrew4232



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Posts: 1543

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 00:37

don't know if its law here, but it certainly is in turkey you often see the police and tax man doing spot checks at the airports

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 01:50

they know that people do this for a living, the taxi drivers spot them all the time at larnaca, dont forget they may be related to the border control guard. The greek taxi drivers complain about it all the time.There is nothing wrong with picking up your friends and relatives but for a living you wont be insured without the union documents

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 03:28

I believe that all right minded people will not condone foreigners engaged in unlicensed taxi work particularly as those of us who from time to time ferry families and friends are now made more susceptible to some draconian statute being made because of their selfish and greedy actions. Government and Unions should be made aware of this. However, I would not hesitate to tell them also that their taxis would be the busier if the drivers, in the main, did not drive at idiot speeds and ignore road signs such as traffic lights at red, often in unroadworthy vehicles ! I will not drink and drive but neither will I use a taxi, the driving is shared turn and turn about with the Wildebeest. I would willingly pay for a taxi so that we can both enjoy to the full evenings out, if they were safe. Deputy Dawg's horse exists only in his imagination so no solution there

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 04:15

msg 9;

Whats your comments got to do with the thread?





"equal rights for all people in the TRNC. "



Do none Brittish citizens get the same equal rights as the actual citizens in UK?

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 04:22

It would seem that we now get prats on nearly every thread bringing it down oh well :(

Tootie


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Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 04:30

Msg 14.

Give it a rest officer !

tarry67


Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 1053

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 10:00

Everyone in the uk that has a business complains about the eastern europeans taking the work from them for little money and paying no tax. Why should it be different here, the taxi's have a right to complain don't you think? I do agree with message 1 its the same price for the legal taxi's.

Anyway its up to the individual, they will use who they want at the end of the day.

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 11:08

They have a point, we all know many people who do to "earn a wage" and of course friends and relatives are not the point, but I am sure we all know more than one person that does this "outside the law" can you imagine what would happen if we had a death in a car accident on the South side with a British "taxi driver" ??

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 11:11

Maybe if the government here made it easier to obtain legal work, then they would not have the problem of 'illegal' taxis etc. Plus they would gain from it by the social security payments and taxes being paid. Just my opinion of course.



Chris

Pugwash


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Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 13:30

Most if not all the expatriates come here to "retire" but they do like to earn a bit on the side as they think is their "right" then they complain when the government and locals get upset, how many taxi drivers, pool cleaners and musicians do this? lots. Yes there should be a way to earn money and pay tax in a more simple way than at present but it does not escape the truth that these people are tax dodgers and cheats.

doppelganger


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Posts: 147

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 13:39

restaurant / shop owners who smuggle goods over the next target ??

Washerman


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Message Posted:
26/09/2010 13:39

Nurseawful/Pugwash



Every Country in the World (including the UK) has the right to place restrictions on whether foreigners can work and what they have to do to be able to work.



There are rules here which allow you to set up a company and work. If people don't like them or, can't meet the criteria that is laid down and yet, need to work - time to think about living elsewhere.



IMHO - if this is the case, such people shouldn't have settled here in the first place!

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 13:47

Fully agree Washerman, however so many expats do not want to follow the rules as they are "unfair" in their opinion so they do as they want. IMHO they should make an example of a few, that would soon solve the problem.

Rocker



Joined: 24/09/2008
Posts: 384

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 13:49

As an expat I agree with what is being said about illegal Taxis, when in the UK we did there as well. What are they after, the epats whom frequently traverse the island with customers to the varoius airports, not those whom occassionally take family or friends.i

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 13:55

Pugwash - agreed!



They work on the side and in their spare time, come on here and have a go at the expats that are sticking to the rules, running businesses and working legally. When in fact, they should be doing the opposite and supporting their fellow Countrymen.



The latest scam is to hook up with a charity because they believe that this legalises the money going in their back pockets.



The Govt. will clamp down eventually and it will be because of their illegal activities and everyone will be affected, including the legally working expats, but they can't see this and don't care. Selfish people!

doppelganger


Joined: 08/09/2010
Posts: 147

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 14:03

remember this the next tim yo want gammon/ other goodies at your local shop ( it may have been smuggled)or those nice dishes in the deli/ restaurant.



we have all seen the ads / comments advising products /dishes now available.



the halos on here are amazing, lets hope they do not choke you.

Pugwash


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Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 14:08

Fine by me, close the border would be best.

Washerman


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Message Posted:
26/09/2010 14:11

Doppleganger - Better to half way a halo than carry a trident.

Washerman


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Message Posted:
26/09/2010 14:11

Pugwash - me too. Don't go there, don't shop there!

Washerman


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Message Posted:
26/09/2010 14:14

Sorry, post should have read; Doppleganger - Better to half "wear" a halo than carry a trident.

matula


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 647

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 14:53

Msg 28. How self righteous can you get? I will wager you are from the London/South of England area and have flights from Ercan every day. After today there are no more flights to Manchester and we who live north of the Watford Gap will have to fly from the south. Whether I choose a legal taxi or have a friend take me is my choice also.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 14:57

Matula, you're right - "How self righteous can you get?" We are talking about the plight of those working legally here and the problems they face and all you are bothered about is which airport your able to fly from - Whoosh!

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 15:01

The latest scam is to hook up with a charity because they believe that this legalises the money going in their back pockets!



Washerman can you expand on that, no quite sure what you are inferring and to whom.



Also you are all heart, some people may have to work because they lost it all with rogue builders did you ever think of that. Also have you never 'used someone on the side' to do a job for you. I know even in the UK we got registered plumbers, joiners in etc and paid them cash so it didn't go through their books! It's called being human.



Chris

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 15:12

"some people may have to work because they lost it all with rogue builders did you ever think of that."



Chris - that is a very good and valid point. Anyone that finds themselves in this position should contact me and I will try to help.



I have no argument with people working on the side - I just wish that they had no problem with the 'legal' workers and supported them instead of pulling them down, especially on here!



To understand my comments, you have to look at what people write about me and then, put yourself in my position, as I try to put myself in yours.

Pugwash


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Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 15:20

Mess 33, or you can fly via Istanbul.

nurseawful



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Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 15:30

Washerman,



I hope you are never in my position as I work for Sweet FA occasionally friends give me money for petrol and if it wasn't for that I could not do what I do! I go to Bellapais every 2 nd day at the moment (it was every day) to see an 88 year old lady who lives alone and needs a dressing change done. She has no living relatives has been here 28 years, lives alone and was scammed a few years ago by ex-pats out of most of her savings!



I have no problem with legal workers, it must be wonderful to be able to lodge a huge amount of money in the bank here and start your own business, what I was trying to say was that we don't know peoples circumstances that do illegal work and yes they probably though they were going to retire here but whatever reason they can't afford to.



Chris

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 15:48

I would much rather use and expat for a cab to the airport.

At least they passed a proper European driving test.

Under a test of fairness how many legal expat cabbies do we have driving here.? Probably none because its a closed shop for locals only.

The rule the goverment came up with a while back was unworkable, it was that you couldn't take or collect someone from the airport unless you were a blood relative!

Hence hubby can't drop of the wife, brilliant idea?

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 15:51

Chris, I walked to the dividing line and you turned away from me. So be it, but if you need help. I am here!

Mr Vince


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 696

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 16:00

I think that I would rather be driven by a "family friendly" ex pat than a local taxi. At least I would be sure that speed restictions were being followed and that the driver was concentrating on the road and not smoking and talking on the mobile or drivig as though he has just passed a test to drive a donkey and cart

Pugwash


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Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 16:11

Yes Vince, probably drunk though, not very family friendly is that? and still illegal so no insurance or comeback of any type.

Washerman


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Message Posted:
26/09/2010 16:13

BEWARE - I was talking to a local prostitute and she told me that local taxi drivers are really feeling it!

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 16:49

my husband is a cypriot taxi driver, do you know it costs 30 thousand euros to get a Tplate ?? that means he is able to drive a Taxi legally!!.These ex pats should stop stealing their trade.

Washerman


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Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 16:54

Moxie - AGREED!

apc2010


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Message Posted:
26/09/2010 16:57

a blind rabbit and blind frog bump into each other in a wood, what are you they ask each other , they dacide to feel each other , the frog does first , he says ooohh you are nice and furry...you have big fluffy feet and ears ......i know you a bunny ...aw thank says the rabbit ,my turn ...........he starts feeling eeehhh your skin is all slimey and bumpy ...eehh your eyes stick out and a long furry tongue ...i know what you are......................... .a cypriot taxi driver

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 16:58

Thank you Washerman....times are hard for everyone as it is.

moxie


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Message Posted:
26/09/2010 17:01

so funny APC think you got the ending wrong ...it should have read an ex pat with a beer gut...scrounging from the TRNC

Washerman


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Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 17:02

MOXIE - Totally Ironic!

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 17:07

Well said moxie, people forget that you do not just get an old or new Merc and become a taxi driver here and that you pay for your licence, so the illegals are actually taking work away from the legals.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 17:11

exactly!!! my husband works hard for a living, and we have noticed a definate decline is business. I even know of a bar owner who does taxi runs to Larnaca and he was supposed to be a mate, wonder if he would like it if we pulled up outside his bar and sold beer???.

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 17:26

I think that it is worth getting a degree of perspective here. Can anybody give a fair idea of how many expats are providing an illegal taxi service - that is, driving someone from point A to point B and receiving reward for it ??



I might be wrong, but am willing to bet that it is only probably a couple of dozen at best. Hardly enough to take away two thirds of the taxi trade away from locals as claimed in the newspaper article. I in no way condone expats running illegal taxis, but I must ask the question - how many locals run illegal taxis/dolmus ?? This might be where the true problem lies.



There are also a huge amount of taxis in the TRNC and with the downturn in tourist numbers, there is bound to be a downturn in earnings.



Paul

johndp


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Posts: 497

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 17:27

Washerman keep talking to prostitutes it suits you youre so lily white and i dont think so lol

Washerman


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Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 17:27

Fiendishpaul - which side of the fence are you sitting on?

Washerman


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Message Posted:
26/09/2010 17:28

johndp )))

Groucho



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Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 17:29

I sympathise with you but surely there is a global recession which has caused a drop-off in tourist numbers... all the hotels say so, all the restaurants say so.... do you expect the same level of custom in spite of this fact?



Maybe there are too many legit taxi drivers for the level of custom... I hear of the odd ex-pats unofficial taxi driver but I'm guessing it's pretty small beer in relation to the overall numbers.



It is ironic however that some people who complain about foreigners taking UK jobs/benefits/housing are prepared to voice seemingly alternative views here....

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:13

if a Cypriot is caught running a taxi service without a t Plate, we are talking a huge fine maybe prison, as he is carrying passengers without relevant insurance etc..The taxi drivers know who these people are ,and are giving registration numbers to the police. Of course picking up friends and family is acceptable, but seeing the same face at the airport does give the game away.Yes tourism is down, but to be told by customers that their ex pat friend could not pick them up because they were working their bar etc , is kind off a kick in the teeth. I think you will find that we are talking in quite large numbers of ex pats doing this.Hence the need for this intervention.

Groucho, well said, the ex pats here seem to forget that they are now the foreigners taking our jobs!!!. The amount of times i hear ex pats saying the the UK is full of immigrants taking all the jobs...yes ironic.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:16

Brit's - listen to Moxie, this is a local telling it from their side of the story!

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:18

Washerman



I don't believe that I am sitting on the fence. I in no way support expats who run illegal taxi services.



I was merely pointing out that the newspaper article infers that it is illegal expat taxis that are mainly to blame for the downturn in the earnings of local taxi drivers. I don't believe that this is the case and is more likely tied to the downturn in tourism numbers and the amount of illegal taxis/dolmus run by locals.



As Groucho says, there are probably far too many legit taxi drivers available than there is custom to support. All a question of supply and demand !!



Paul

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:19

Agree fully moxie, this is really not on, I know at least 3 pool cleaners/taxi drivers/gardeners all illegal and before some say no I do not use them, my Pool cleaning company is a TRNC legit one, my Gardener a Turkish long term resident with a company and does a great job, and when I use a Taxi i get a registered one, not that difficult really.

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:19

I used an illegal taxi driver all the time when I lived there. Maybe if I could have found a 'licensed' taxi driver who was not an utter lunatic on the road, and might have actually turned up when booked, then I would have happily used him.

My guy was a safe driver, always turned up or if he was running late would phone to tell me. He also charged reasonable rates. I make no apologies for using him.

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:33

Of course KP no one can do anything better than a Brit can they? finest at all things in the world including Taxi driving. Illegal of course, but ho hey who cares he's a Brit!

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:43

No Pugwash, it wasn't a Brit! So keep your sarcasm to yourself!

Bernies


Joined: 21/09/2010
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:44

there are no illegal taxis run by expats in trnc have you ever seen them plying for hire ???



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:48

Yes, but generally I expect you mean "private hire"



KP German then? or Pakistani?

Texas


Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 634

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:56

I've got an idea.



If a Brit claims he's taking/collecting friends from the airport, he must be accompanied by his "better half".



When the passengers arrive at the airport, it will be mandatory for big hugs and kisses. The same applies when dropping them off. Legal taxi drivers from the TRNC can help by arriving early at the airport(s) and keep an eye on things. Groping is not allowed!



Any Brit illegal taxi drivers having to take their "better halves" with them, will quickly put a stop to their illegal trade. Not to mention not taking a detour to a nightclub on the way home!

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 19:14

Now the driving style of many legit taxi drivers does worry me greatly... particularly the left-hand drive taxi drivers who overtake going around blind corners....



Luckily we have enough family and friends out here to be able to avail ourselves of their services but the number of times we are cut-up and nearly involved in a serious accident by taxi drivers is not funny!



Moxie, I hope your husband is one of the few good drivers...

TraceElliot


Joined: 29/07/2010
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 20:02

Message 37 - Nurseawful,



She wasn't scammed by our nearest and dearest charity organiser and cyprus today tech computer d*ck sorry t*at sorry "guru" , Hal Crompton, was she?



Trace

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 22:03

I don't think anyone wants to run anything illegally but the work laws on expats here are out of the arc, if the goverment allowed expats to register as self employed like they do in the south, then people would more than likely be more honest, register and pay taxes. There isn't enough legal jobs to go around, so what are they ment to do? I know plenty of TC's who hire illegal workers for their business's it doesn't appear to both them.



How many TC's and Turks work illegally in the UK? you only have to look as far as the local kebab shop!

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 22:16

message 67



You are way out of order!



Chris

moxie


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Message Posted:
26/09/2010 22:26

groucho..my husband was born in the UK drove a london bus for many years ...he has never had an accident in all his driving years and at 50 yrs of age , thats quite an acomplishment. Lets get this straight .....this is about foreigners taking money from locals illegally .... i am purely expressing my discontent at illegal oaps/jobless ex pats earning money illegally at the expense of their adopted country.We do not have revenue from UK homes or pensions to subsidise an idylic life in the sun. I also wish that TRNC laws were more amiable for esx pats but unfortuantly they are not very accomodating, but does that make it ok to rob locals of a legit income??

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 22:43

Moxie



I fully understand your point, but do you deny that locals run illegal taxis/dolmus'. The article in the newspaper estimated something in the region of 40% of taxis in the TRNC are illegal, if this is the case then I would suggest the vast majority are run by locals.



You quote......"Lets get this straight .....this is about foreigners taking money from locals illegally" - Whilst two wrongs don't make a right, it makes a refreshing change for the boot to be on the other foot .



Just trying to be a bit light hearted about a very serious subject.



Paul

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 22:46

by the way mssge 58.... it is almost impossible for an illegal taxi/dolmus service to run here for a duration, as we are liable to spot checks at any given time. Due to the fact that illegal taxis/Dolmus are subject to such hefty repercussions.



Stop trying to place the blame on your adopted country and respect the local economy and stop trying to justify illegal ex pats working here. I would have thouht that if you were going to post such a mssge ,you would have at least got your facts confirmed and back up such a wild accusation ??

moxie


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Posts: 969

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 22:57

so you suggest that they are locals......im sorry but i think you are so incorrect, this estimation is probably taking into comsideration the ex pats !!!. Maybe if you understood the legal system here and the implications of commiting such a crime for a local not only carries a serious repercussion , but the family name is blackened , not many Cypriots would endeavour to persue an illagal act with the attatched consequenses. IE no bank loans, no standing in the community , this is a small island and closely knit, one local doing bad can affect a huge families reputaion. Also i cannot see the 2 wrongs???

fiendishpaul


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Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 23:04

Moxie



You obviously are not reading my posts correctly. In both of my posts I have said that I do not support expats operating illegally and make no attempt to justify their actions.



"it is almost impossible for an illegal taxi/dolmus service to run here for a duration"



My quote about illegal dolmus's was based on an article that I read in the Cyprus Today a couple of months back which estimated that almost half of the dolmus's operating in the TRNC were illegal.



Lets be straight, the TRNC is not my adopted country, I am just a law abiding citizen who has chosen to live here for a while - it provides me with nothing so I owe it nothing in return, least of all any sense of loyalty.



Regards



Paul

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 23:19

Sorry Paul. yes i did misconstrew what you said, my apologies. Im purely trying to express my feeling on ex pats taking money from our hands. We work hard and do not have a luxury life. Anyone in my position would be angered by what is happening, whilst also aknowleging the money that ex pats put into our country. Its a difficult situation, onw which i hope can be resolved soon, May i add that Cyrprus Today is not a news paper that i hold with much regard, as i see it as quite a biast read.Anyhow Paul, i hope ypur time here is good .

Groucho



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Message Posted:
27/09/2010 06:50

Moxie



The idea that locals won't do anything wrong for fear of blackening the family name is not many home buyers experience... It seems complete shysters are willing to take ex-pats to the cleaners, have no intention of performing in accordance with a legal contract and often hide behind the inability of the legal system to do anything about it - not giving a jot for the family name.



I'm pleased to hear taxi drivers are a different breed.



One thing I don't understand, why do the Govt. allow left-hand drive vehicles to be registered for hire work as coaches, dolmuş and taxis?



You will understand they are significantly more dangerous and therefore pose a threat to both passenger and driver. One reason I don't call a taxi to take me to the airport is, when it turns up, if it's left-hand drive, I don't want to be the passenger!

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 07:30

mess 76 - first para - gets the Neg Nick "para of the week" award



Well done Groucho





And......



If so many Brits hadn't had the hell skanked out of them by cheating builders - they wouldn't hae the need to find work - illegal or otherwise......



Fair play, i say.........

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 07:37

Moxie



No need to apologise.



I fully appreciate your sentiments and don't deny that 'some' expats abuse the system. However, I think that the numbers being quoted by the taxi drivers union are not true - no evidence is provided to substantiate these claims. Forgive me for saying, but it is a tendency of TRNC businesses/unions to blame all and sundry for their woes, be that expats, embargoes the EU et al - very rarely do they look inwards and lay the blame at their own feet.

On a slightly separate issue, my understanding is that it is illegal to import a left hand drive (LHD) car into the TRNC for personal use but it seems OK for LHD cars and buses to be imported for public use. I appreciate that LHD vehicles are much cheaper than RHD but it does send mixed signals from the government when road safety is such a 'hot potato' at the moment. I am afraid that having seen the state of some taxis and the driving standards exhibited, I would never use a TRNC taxi. Sorry.

Paul

tamand


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 240

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 09:55

Why the hell did you bunch of moaning gits ever come here in the first place, answer probably whined in England or wherever as well you just cant be happy anywhere it seems to be an expat thingy whine whine whine, maybe if England had been as tough as here it wouldnt be in the state its in today



Yes theres bad taxi drivers here, but of course theres not in england,

yes theres left hand drives here but theres not in england,

yes theres crooks here, but theres not in england

remember you lot of muppets england has had years and decades to develop this place has only come out of its exclusion in the past 10 years or so if youre not happy LEAVE

Babrew


Joined: 15/09/2010
Posts: 486

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 10:06

Ive heard many times about tourists whose Hotel phoned a taxi but they never turned up. Late for the airport and 45 mins late for a boat trip. They dont give a damn.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 10:08

Tamand



What a well reasoned argument...



I've never seen a left-hand drive taxi in the UK... have you? No, then your point is moot.



Crooks in England are answerable to the law... here... you tell us.



Your last sentence is rude and not worthy of further comment...

matula


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 647

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 10:14

Tamand in South Africa you would be known as a "soutpiel" ----one foot in each country and your privates dangling in the ocean.

tamand


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 240

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 10:30

groucho I didnt mention taxi !!! another who reads whot they like into posts, and by the way if you stand for long enough at dover port you will see several 'taxis' coming off the ferries from Calais I am sure, maybe not english ones though so my point may well not be moot, smarta*se



Crooks in england are answerable to the law ? sometimes and the law has had many decades to evolve has it not ??

Last sentence is unarguable fact thats why you find it rude you have no other argument

Matula im not in southafrica and have no wish to be, maybe you have so why not depart for those oh so safe and crime free shores, i also learnt a saying

a seagull poster is one who flys in shits on everything then leaves

Just as im going to do on this thread its bad enough already

lol

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 11:16

>>I've never seen a left-hand drive taxi in the UK... have you? No, then your point is moot. <<



Actually, Groucho you probably have - what about those long limos ? Some are used on airport runs..

van2steve


Joined: 14/06/2009
Posts: 33

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 14:38

Some of the posts on here are absolutely disgraceful. Message 67 what are you on? Unbelievable.

Same applies to 79 and quite a few more.



I don't think I have ever read such venomous drivel. I think many of you need to get a life quite honestly.

tsmlion


Joined: 17/08/2009
Posts: 39

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 15:33

Hello,



not sure if this is the time or the place..........................



but can anyone do a pick up from Larnaca 6pm tomorrow?

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 15:47

In my experiences Turkish Cypriots often work illegally in the UK.

Here i have many TC friends who still go back to the Uk for medical treatment to which they are not intitled.

They claim benefits from the UK whilst living here, to which they are not intitled.

They rent out their council houses whilst living here, to which they are not initled.

They are even claiming benefits from the south, which i guess they are intitled but i bet they don't declare that income here.

If the expats here have learned anything, they learned from the best who have been in the UK doing it for years.

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 15:52

Re Msg 87: what has TCs working in UK illegally got to do with taxis to/from Cyprus airports?

I think the way this forum has gone is a disgrace, and should be closed.

Geoff

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 16:07

Tamand



sorry you feel the need to continue your rude and unruly posting style.



The whole point being made about LHD vehicles was that allowing them to be used for Gvot approved PSVs and Taxis is ridiculous... LHD drive school buses even worse.



LHD taxis often pull out to overtake often without a clear view up the road, I've seen so many near head-on collisions involving LHD cars nothing would encourage me to use one unless I was driving it with due care.



I take it you have no problem with the driving here? You must be one of the very few....



Your last sentence wasn't a fact it was a request for people who don't agree with your 'suck-it-up' approach to leave Cyprus rather than discuss the issues.... not really much of a fact.

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 18:22

Groucho you always come across as very self opinionated but believe, you do not have all the answers, despite what you may think.



Let me echo the thoughts of others, this is their country we are but guests, if you think your life is threatened or in any way worsened, any more here than elsewhere, you are free to leave, you are no more in a positoin to discuss issues than any of the other 'rude' posters on this board who believe they have all the answers, the TRNC was here before many of the sanctimonious scriptwriters who frequent this board decided to move here and regale us of their 'piffle', and I have no doubt it will be here when most of them have gone from whence they came, or to elsewhere, if they cannot afford to return to their native shores

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 20:34

tamand

Re your message no. 79

I cannot disagree with your posting, in fact I have just recently met a London Turk Cyp who has just come back to his ancestral homeland for the first time and the reason he is back is because he got caught up in a minicab turf war in London and got stabbed in the abdomen. If the paramedics had not arrived so quickly he would have been a gonner. He is now re-evaluating his life.

Sobering for him and for me.

AJ

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 734

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 21:01

Just curious. Are there any foreigners in TRNC who own a taxi business legally and arrive at destinations alongside the Turk. Cyp and can legally pick up passengers at airports etc..?

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 23:29

Lazy days...



Who else's opinions am I going to have? Certainly not yours...



Just because we are guests doesn't mean we should accept carnage on the roads... I don't want ex-pat Taxi drivers, I don't advocate their use and I have never used one. However, the idea that anyone who doesn't agree with you should leave is offensive and a total nonsense and you know it...



AJ



You agree with the content of msg 79 even though it is extremely rude... some moderator you are.



It's OK for him to call us all muppets? Well that only goes to show your true character... but I guess that OK because you are like minded.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 23:51

Oh dear me Grouch

You have obviously not taken your happy pills tonight. I can make comments on this board the same as anyone else, I was not being rude to anyone and was just relaying a situation that I encountered a few days ago. I will explain something that I think you are missing and that is first of all I am a member of this board the same as you and any other member so I can also post my views the same as you. If you are trying to wind me up then forget about it. I have worked with too many idiots in my lifetime to let petty sniping affect my attitude to what I do and say in my life.

Have a good evening

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 00:14

"Re your message no. 79 I cannot disagree with your posting"



You said this.. if you didn't agree with his remark about muppets why didn't you make that clear. I'm not trying to wind you up... but please explain why you think that was OK.



The throw away argument that 'if you don't like it leave' is bandied about on here all too often by those who don't appear to have anything worth contributing. Just because others think something should be discussed doesn't justify it.



Commenting that Govt's allowing LHD public service vehicles is not safe is hardly moaning or whining it's just a common sense observation.



Life is too short but losing it in an unnecessary car accident doesn't help.

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 00:18

Geeez

t his board takes the bikkie, you are so stuck up your own assses all I did was pass on something important cos some folks have already been pulled and with the attitudes of some on here I now hope they make an example of some

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 00:19

" I have worked with too many idiots in my lifetime"



Self-employed then?

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 00:19

Grouch

I think you have lost the plot. Go and have a lie down and return when you have relaxed. Oh and by the way that is not sarcasm but advice.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 06:44

Funny I was thinking the same about you.... I'm perfectly relaxed and have been throughout. I don't need advice from you either... I advise you to re-read msg 79 think a little about the house rules whilst doing so? Maybe? No I thought not....



johndp, you are right, running ex-pat taxi services is simply not on and those who do run an illegal car for hire should be very wary. Whether or not the police catch you is immaterial to the losses and liability issues you might suffer should an accident occur in the south especially.

mikea11


Joined: 15/06/2008
Posts: 254

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 07:01

Come on Guys and galls. This is getting really silly. Nearly every thread is becoming slagging match. Its now getting to the stage where if it does'nt cease perhaps the site should close.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 07:37

Mike try telling Tiririca (aka Elsanjack)

Alig8aBytes


Joined: 27/09/2010
Posts: 83

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 08:07

Cratos are doing "cage fighting" soon......



Looks like we have found a couple of likely contenders on the forum (Groucho & AlsancakJack )

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 08:44

AJ doesn't do violence... I don't pick on those unable to defend themselves... :(

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 10:29

Message 88.

I just wanted to point out that the TC's do exactly the same thing in the UK. They don't mind working illegally and taking jobs. money, work from British people. Many continue to do this whilst still living here and abusing our system. I am not in anyway say they all do but some do, as do some Brits do a little cabbing.

If they hadn't driven all the tourists away, then they would have customers. Why is that out fault?

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 11:02

Peeps work on the black all over the world but I think the point of the post has been lost on the thick skulls who want to dissect everything down to a molecule.

Johndp you are surely a serviceman

Incoming

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 14:15

Personally I do not support expats running illegal cab 'services' after all, in the event of an accident you aren't covered, so anyone using their 'services' does so at their own risk.



However, I do take issue with the assumption that it is a few 'expats' who are ruining the local taxi trade. Unless there are literally hundreds of expats doing this, then it shouldn't have anything like the impact that the local cabbies are claiming.



Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that the government might be passing a law forbidding expats from taking anyone except relatives to and from the airport. I hope that this is just a 'chinese whisper'. If true, where would the government stop ??? Using the above as an example, you wouldn't be able to have friends to dinner as this would be taking away trade from the restaurants and friends wouldn't be able to stay with you because this would take trade away from the hotels.



Just a thought



Paul

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 21:35

I would rather have an illegal taxi driven by a brit than the Turkish Cyprus Taxis which I have seen driven by idiots who do not know how to drive safely and forget they have people's lives in their hands when they are transporting people. The taxi drivers here are the most dangerous I have seen and the union should insist that they all taking a driving test before they are allowed to carry passengers.

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 21:54

WTF is wrong with you people???????????, live and let live, if you dont like it F@CK OFF back to the good, safe UK.I may even know someone thats willing to give you a free one way transfer back to Ercan, and yep you may not start out to be blood related, but beleive me, before you get to the airport you will be.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 22:09

ttoli no need to be so offensive mate. Some people are just saying they don't like the way the taxi drivers drive over here, some are pointing out just a few expats running illegal taxi runs are not crippling the legit taxi drivers. I pointed out in my posts at the start that not to be able to pick friends up is ridiculous.

doppelganger


Joined: 08/09/2010
Posts: 147

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 22:11

I do not support expats running illegal cab 'services'





do you support RESTAURANTS smuggling food over the border avoiding customs ??





market traders not paying tax ??





where is the line drawn ??











one restaurant openly boasts on here they get good from the south !

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 22:25

Lapta Mike

Agree with you 100% mate, local driving standards are disgusting(cant spell appaling!-Feckin Efes!;)).

Picking up your friends from the airport, not a problem, but there are many here that earn a good living from airport runs, have no Insurance and then rather than keeping a low profile, go on the attack, the authorities aren't stupid, they have a pretty good idea just by the ins and outs(X border), time will tell.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 22:38

I suppose tt. To be honest I would prefer not to have to drive to the airport to pick up my family or my friends because it's such a long haul. (3 hours for me if I dont stop for a break inbetween) Can't exactly say f off get a taxi tho can I? Would put a dampner on their hols.



Last time I was in Larnaca arrivals hall I caught a nasty bloody cold of someone getting off one of the planes. (Or maybe the GC cafe owner where I got a slice of disgusting pizza sneezed on it ;-)

teatime


Joined: 20/10/2008
Posts: 852

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 22:57

Just how many deaths on the road here are related to taxi drivers? Not many I would wager. Taxi drivers the world over drive in a manner that people can perceive as looking dangerous, could it not be because they are so used to the roads and traffic conditions that they actually know what they are doing? I have used taxis here many times and have never had an issue with their driving.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 23:02

teatime, I take it you've never been in a taxi then when the driver has been texting on his phone while speeding, drifting over to the other side of the road into oncoming traffic and having to swerve back when we've all screamed and sh@t ourselves.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 23:18

msg 110, most restaurants including indian, chinese have to get the products there as they are not available here, un like the north east of england. Most restaurants will tell you that here but to be different needs must sorry........

teatime


Joined: 20/10/2008
Posts: 852

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 23:22

Laptamike....But you lived to tell the tale..............Exactly what I was saying in my post!

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 23:27

teatime, what a rubbish answer. So it's acceptable to drive in the fashion mentioned because you don't die?????

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 23:29

teatime, you need a reality pill.

teatime


Joined: 20/10/2008
Posts: 852

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 23:39

Laptamike, Did I say it was acceptable? What I was inferring was, was it really as dangerous as you are trying to make everyone believe, or was there some exageration in your post? Seems like a lot of people on here want to slag off the taxi drivers, I just stated that I have used taxi drivers many times and not had a bad experience, you then tried to make it sound as though that was unusual.

So, my answer to you was rubbish, that's your opinion i'm not open to a slanging match which you seem to want, so i'll say goodnight and glad you survived your horrifying experience.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 23:51

teatime, good night to you too, take care.



for the record though



" What I was inferring was, was it really as dangerous as you are trying to make everyone believe, or was there some exageration in your post?"



I did not exagerate. It actually happened. I am not slagging off the TC taxi drivers, some of them are bad drivers though. Same all over the world. I've been in bad taxis in UK. Never seen them text though. If answering the phone they always use a headset.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 00:04

well I was picked up with 2 friends and hubby Ercan airport - coming over the mountain the guy was on the wrong side of the road head lights coming towards us, I tapped him on the shoulder and told him to get the hell over gesticulating, oh sorry he said, 2 minutes later did the same thing.



Appauling driving never seen anything like it, needless to say the only tip he got was too 'get a new job'!! becasue he certianly shouldnt be doing the one he had



So maybe if they drove properly we would have nothign to complain about

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 00:14

The thread is not about bad driving it is about illegal taxi driving. Yes I have had bad taxi drivers in many countries UK included.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 00:20

Pug, yes it is but it has brought up other points that need answered. For example, why would people prefer to use illegal taxis? It is a discussion board after all.



It might be slightly off topic so to speak but it is relevant.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 00:29

yes it is precisely the point because people would not seek others to drive them to places if they were good drivers, why put you trust in a local that dosent give a toss about his passengers THAT is very much the point



(btw I dont use illegal taxis but I can see why people would prefer them over these local idiot drivers) maybe folk want to get from A to B in one piece and alive !!

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 01:02

Off topic again, I was in Luxor, Egypt. I got in a taxi (£1GPS £EG10) to take me from one side of Luxor to the other. He had a piece of cardboard on the floor of the passenger seat, he said please don't stand on it, hole in floor. hehe.

cazer


Joined: 06/08/2010
Posts: 3

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 07:41

Can any one tell me if the Turkish cabbies pay there Greek insurance to carry fare paying passengers,if they do why do they cover up there T on there number plate so when they pass to the greek side the passengers are not insured. To be legal you must pay insurance on the turkish side and insurance on the greek side no one as ever mentioned this?

coolrob


Joined: 24/06/2008
Posts: 28

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 08:23

Wonder how much their liability cover is, perhaps we should ask to see their insurance doccuments before boarding, if the worst happened and next of kin needed to make a claim wonder what would happen?

Rob.

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 08:36

I think moxie could say for sure the amounts but all taxis that are registered will be fully insured as required by the law, unlike the expats who will have no insurance at all for this service.

bazilbrush


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 404

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 09:15

This thread should be closed now, as it is going nowhere,just in circles, I think everyone has had their say, and this won't change anything. When the first person gets stopped and the passengers don't reach their destination we can all have another discussion.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 09:33

the T is covered because the Greeks do not wish the drivers to advertise as Taxis. Greek Taxis also have a Tplate .The T means Ticaret which means trade, lorries have a T plate also which means they pay tax. Insurance for any veihcle is only 3rd party when going to the Greek side, Taxis included. The insurance the taxis have this side is fully comp, which means passengers can be compensated,even if involved in an accident on the Greek side, and illegal taxis , although may be fully comp this side ,will not be able to compensate pasengers (either side)as he does not have a T plate, and is not permitted to carry passengers on a trade basis. Taxis going south have to show insurance at the border, as do any vehicles. Tplates can be checked tat the border to see whether or not they are legit. Hope that answers your question Pugwash

doppelganger


Joined: 08/09/2010
Posts: 147

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 09:35

Message 115



I would not know I have never eaten out in the north east of england .



you will have to bark up another tree as you are barking up the wrong tree there.



So it's ok to break the law to get what you want " products not available in trnc""



but you are not happy for people to get what the want a driver in a reliable car to drive safely charing a reasonable amount and turning up on time .



SEEMS A TAD HYPOCRITICAL



but thats your choice and you are to be commended for you honesty .

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 10:13

I was reading elsewhere on a similar thread about someone having been pulled over at (I think) Pyla and was subjected to a very thoroug grilling for quite some time, so it seems as if there is action going on, and yes it is time to close this thread

groucho and aj having a go

laptamike having a go at teatime

seinna and tamand having a go

ttoli swearing and blinding



mess 105 yes



its typical of the mentality of these people they cannot have a sensible discussion without insults

please close this thread and i dont think i will be posting on here again, in fact i think this board should close it serves no purpose

INCOMING !!

Bernies


Joined: 21/09/2010
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:01

30 illegal taxi in Famagusta



THE man works at night club at night, in the morning, switch to the steering wheel is a taxi driver.



NOT A BRIT THEN !!



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blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 13:51

So from what the people here have to say, the only reason you would use a local tax before and expat taxi is because your uninsured in a expat taxi.



We have two friends here, both who have been involved in car accidents, neither of them being at fault. They have been seriously injured and when it came down to the insurance paying out, you guest it, niether of them have been paid. So left for dead, with massive medical bills and little chance of ever seing a penny, thats without the ongoing disabilities they now have.



Insurance ? i would rather go with someone who can drive properly.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 14:28

>>I've never seen a left-hand drive taxi in the UK... have you? No, then your point is moot. <<



"Actually, Groucho you probably have - what about those long limos ? Some are used on airport runs.."



Mark,



ask a UK taxi driver with a fully registered taxi the difference between a taxi (Hackney carriage) and a private hire vehicle.



I don't know of any local taxi licensing authority who would allow LHD vehicles to be used as a taxi stretch-limo or otherwise.



I've never seen a LHD stretch-limo with a Taxi Plate in the UK. Somebody no doubt knows whether this is correct....

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 21:28

as i understand it

hotels and casinos have own taxis so thats another lot they have lost

ex pats a few are regular goers

i take my neighbour on a regular basis we are good friends and i charge nothing he just wont risk a cypriot taxi

we have a beer when hes here and will continue to do so.

other point is you can only carry so many passengers in a taxi and you cant be everywhere at once so what difference does it really make? what makes you think tht they would have got the fare blame the goverment and the airlines for lack of tourists what a farce!

they have this whinge everytime there is a shortage of tourists.

Look at the way expats are conned out of thousands of pounds by crooked advocates builders waiters

what will happen is a few select legal taxis will get all the work and the wingers will get even less

taxi drivers shops etc etc

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 21:34

it all boils down to if a fee is charged

does it mean you cant pick up a hitchhiker?

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 22:47

Sorry Blade were you refering to passengers in a taxi or a hire car ???if in an illegal taxi or ex pat taxi, they would have got the same ....jack s..t!!! . and Cyprusairsoft i cannot comment on individuals who participate in house deals, i know i will be slated for that, luckily i rent!!, whatever, we cannot shift/justify the problem of illegal practices of ex pats doing taxi runs ,due to them getting ripped of by buliders. So shall we blame my minimun wage of under £500 per month on ex pats, constantly saying ..oh thats cheaper than th UK ???....... it spirals off in a tangent !!. Yes there are many bad legal Taxi drivers, and illegal drivers and ex pats , it is everyones choice, do what you feel comfortable with.To justify one illegal practice due to the ex pats being conned ...really is a farce !!!

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 23:14

Why has Groucho had to defend his view that using LHD vehicles is inherently dangerous in Cyprus ?. After 4 years in Germany driving cack handed vehicles, including military, plus in Spain, Africa, South America etc I have no doubt of the safety limitations. Other than perhaps seeing the kerb easier when parking every other aspect is nothing short of downright dangerous. Having to stop your vehicle at a filter lane which joins at an oblique angle as you have no view of traffic even in mirrors, undo your seat belt and crawl across the front passenger seat to look out of the window is sometimes necessary so how can that not be unsafe. If the media have quoted him correctly the Government Road Safety Officer listed a whole catalogue of shortcomings and the indiscipline of drivers here. I appreciate the financial constraints, but every effort should be made ASP to phase out the use of LHD vehicles here. In the meantime like Groucho I do not wish to travel in LHD, many driven by morons

Bernies


Joined: 21/09/2010
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 23:17

and what about the '' legal" taxis charging 12 quid per person for visas YES it is true they do on a regular basis !

Tasgirl


Joined: 31/12/2008
Posts: 100

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 23:20

I know of un-liecenced cars making up to 5 journeys per day to the south, if the authourities had any intention of apprehending unliecenced cars and tax dodgers, one computer programme would show the in's and out's very clearly. The customs don't want to stop northern Europeans and their Pounds-Euros entering, by what ever means.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 23:21

Bernies, never come across that yet but I would tell them to f off and get out and get it done myself.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 23:27

bernies are you serious they charge to get the stamp, how do you know. I have heard however the taxi drivers do tell the pax to put a 20tl note to cover the stamp. Is this true, i also heard that the passengers expect to pay, is this true, who is giving this info is it the foriegn ofice or who is it law x

silentbutdim


Joined: 07/09/2010
Posts: 121

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 00:40

GONE ON TOO LONG.

silentbutdim


Joined: 07/09/2010
Posts: 121

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 00:41

144 POSTS. WHATS BEEN DECIDED? ANYTHING?

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 00:49

trial by what, thet still will

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 07:17

Deputydawg, thanks for the support... I have no problem supporting my view about LHD vehicles being used for hire... My particular worry is LHD school buses, that can't be right, can it?



It's a shame some of the posters resort to personalisation of the debate, with patronising and often downright rude responses which mods seem to have no problem with and even appear to support at times... not sure why. Unless it's because they were in response to a particular point I was attempting to discuss.



The irony of silentbutdim's contribution is not lost on most I hope...

Rogerdodger


Joined: 24/04/2008
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 08:35

If the taxis were not so expencive and the drivers not such bad drivers (not all), then I would use them, but in the past some have scared the crap out of me, with their antics, some think they are lewis hammilton!, all because they need to get back for the next pick up, not only is that dangerous it's also greedy, it's better to be 10 min late for a meeting than 10 years early for a funeral.



Sorry I stick by the private hire till they improve, the service is better, the driving is damm better, and your picked up and dropped off on time.



My personal thoughts

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 11:35

I read elsewhere of someone getting a real grilling for almost an hour while the passengers in the car were made to wait in the sweltering heat.

It is so unfair to brand all taxi drivers the same, it's like branding all posters on 44 the same, I have had some scary moments in London and Leeds with cab drivers and no they were not T/C

essexdan


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 19:20

Just returned from 2 weeks in TRNC.

Taxi transfer from Larnaca was terrifying, 140/150 kmh , texting on one mobile and talking on the other.

Charges me £50 for the privilege of scaring the shit out me.



I am not a good flyer but if you survive the Taxi, the flight is a doddle.



I would gladly pay an ex pat for the opportunity of safe, steady transit to the airport.



During my 2 weeks of driving a hire car the standard of driving in TRNC is at best poor, taking chances to gain a few metres in cars that were scrapped in the UK when I was at primary school, and I am 42 ... Taxi's are better vehicles but no one is invincible.