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Tootie


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-1165185



What would Brown have done?



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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11651851



Groucho



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29/10/2010 18:49

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Ah, but was this a put-up job?



'I know let's scare the shit out of them by mentioning a big rise and then when we all agree a smaller one they'll swallow it'



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29/10/2010 18:53

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And the EU Parliament would play along Grouch...Don't think so, do you, seriously?



Tootie


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For what gain Groucho? lol



girne 29


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Tootie

The agreed rise was 2.9% long before Cameron turned up.

Cameron got everyone to sign a letter stating that rise should be limited to 2.9% .Now the 2.9 had been agreed in July anyway ,nothing to do with Cameron, so what exactly did he do to save a day that didnt need saving anyway.The rest of EU leaders must have been puzzled .

Think Coachie is right, he went there telling everybody how strong he was and how he would prevent any rise,realised that 2.9% had been decided so had no other option than to tell Sun readers what a hard bargain he had made. Then again Sun readers,wouldnt be hard to confuse them!



Groucho



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Tootie



Making him look like he can fill Maggie's boots, that's the gain...



Yenibob,



Where did I mention the EU?



Girne29



Confirms, the higher figure was not on the table at the time Cameron claims he would stop it... Cameron is a naughty monkey.



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Grow up Grouch, the thread is about the EU, as was your post.



Groucho



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31/10/2010 09:50

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It is but my point was the dealings with the EU as represented Govt. to the British public are not always clear.



It would seem the higher figure was not on the EU table, it was put up by the alliance so they could claim a 'victory'.... I didn't say the other EU members would need to collude you did.



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Getting silly now Grouch, and it took you over 24 hours to get there. I never mentioned other member states, my point regarded the Parliament. Stop bluffing and move on mate.



Groucho



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31/10/2010 14:22

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"And the EU Parliament would play along"



sounds like you did mention the other states... as that's who make up the EU parliament



Harold2555



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Groucho



The EU parliament was in favour of the larger increase put forward by the commission, Cameron went to the Council of Ministers who have the power to make the decision.



whether it was stitched up in July or not, You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment.





Harold



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Cameron is just a PR man so what do you lot expect ? the tory party sold our country out to the EU years ago and still you English sheep dont get it. Its just so sad, hundreds of thousands of british people died to keep this island free and yet when it comes round to polling day instead of kicking these charlatans out of westminster the good old british sheep vote them back in again. What a waste !!



girne 29


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Harold

On the !3th august the budget wanted by MEP'S was cut to 2.9% by the council of ministers. So no need for "Cameron went to the Council of Ministers who have the power to make the decision." he knew the decision was already made in August.



What he should have said was "sorry couldnt get the budget reduced from the 2.9% that has been previously agreed. but at least we managed, as a group of nation leaders, to insist that the 2.9% agreed by the ministers was all that was on offer" Instead of the' Cameron kicks butt' rubbish reported in the Murdoch press.





As reported in one paper " In lengthy talks, which finally broke for the night at 1am, David Cameron abandoned Britain's campaign for a freeze in the EU's 107bn budget for next year."



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