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scampy



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Hi All



Sorry if you have missunderstood me about the pool being filled Me and Geoff and Marion thought it would save some money thats all,

We think while everyone is over in Oct to have a meeting about everything



Johnny p

The price for cleaning is 150.00



Susie x



gemma


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Hi all. Geoff and Marion would have loved the pool fillng---2 months ago !!! when it was HOT but now the temp has dropped. The pool at Club Simena was 24degs on Sunday. This pool is in full sun all day.We were the only family in for about 15 mins. Had to get out , it was to cold for little ones!! Like Susie we are resident here. Please consider these facts carefully before parting with pool money : Pool does not get sun all day now : There are no railings round pool :As stated earlier--Meter can take 2/3 weeks/months to appear: Do you want to pay 6 months maintanance for a pool no-one can use ?? Or should we consider pushing for the gardens [no GRASS please] Do we need expensive security cameras?--- Marion and Geoff.



stickle


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See you on Friday



Bill and Linda



Lemtich



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BTTT



http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa219/Lemtich/IOW90001.jpg



Oops, not Kavanlar, just somewhere I live as well.



Lem



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bttt as I am bored !



oldenziel


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No need for pool water if its too cold to swim in my opinion......

No need for security camera's either.



KAVENKOY


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thing with security cameras is peace of mind for the people not living on site i suppose .



phase 1 have them up and not connected ,so no pint in that either .



my opinion they need connecting up and instant viewing from web site .



on bigger picture then you could connect via wifi and the adsl connection that operates the web cameras ,so 2 benefits for the one fee?



kav



scampy



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with all this rain the pool will fill on its own by next summer.......Joke

Susie x



Lemtich



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Is it raining at the Kavanlar site? Just when I thought I would pop over to pick up the digital camera my missus left behind and catch a few rays.



Lem



scampy



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sorry we get rain too sometimes...



scampy



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I am selling up

So anyone want to buy my Apt with central heating Loads of extra's

Let me know

Susie x



Lemtich



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Crikey, that was quick!



Greased lightning!



Lem



scampy



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After 7 years and what I have been through in the last 2 years, and being dumped by the man I loved so much

I think its time to get out

Susie x



Lemtich



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Its a shame really. I have found the people on Phase 1 Kavanlar site to be a really friendly laidback crowd. In fact, I have found most of the ex pats in the TRNC a great bunch. I've made many friends.



I'm sorry your personal sadness is making you leave. I think you've had a rough deal and the natural reaction is to go and leave, walk away. Personally I'd shrug my shoulders and say, "sod it, I'm moving on and you will be the one to regret it later."



But that's easier said than done.



Maybe this video will cheer you up.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI



Lem



scampy



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Oh Lem

That was so funny I bet the whole of phase 1 and 2 heard me laughing

Thanks mate I needed that

Susie x



Lemtich



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You are very welcome, Susie. I may be out in the next few weeks to retrieve a camera and sign some deeds. I'll bring some Strongbows and knock on your door to say hello, I think block 5 phase 2 is right behind block 5 phase 1!



Stay cool, girl.



Happy days



Lem



scampy



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Hi Lem

Yes it is block 5 Apt 2 But its not directly behind Block 5 Phase 1

Just look for my jeep its the only one with private plates



scampy



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Hi Lem

I have just realised who you are

Do you remember the cleaner falling out of your kitchen window?????

That was my cleaner



Lemtich



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Yeah I know.



I still got charged 120 even though the cleaner fell out the window and hadn't finished the clean.



We paid up hoping it would help with hospital bills etc.



What the hell did they land on? The soil is all rock hard around our block.



Was the cleaner male or female?



Lem



scampy



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he was male. he broke his back, his wrist and his ankle and still not working.

but his wife still works for me.



Lemtich



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Poor sod. When I come out, give me his name and I'll see what I can do.



Lem



scampy



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this is georgina. mums in bed. she said, " awwww". and " ask lem when he's coming over"

x



niftyduo


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We are really pleased to be able to say 'Thanks' to the Kavanlar team, to Ilker, Hulya, Fuat and latterly Fatma. In an amazing two weeks we managed to get electric & water meters installed, have two toilets changed because they were not as ordered, have granite worktops and A/C units installed, get the place cleaned (MEPS did a very thorough job), the curtains ordered and fitted, the white goods installed and furniture delivered. For a country regarded by the rest of the world as disfunctional and isolated, this was quite amazing and could not have been achieved in the UK.



Now we have a delightful home and, apart from a few hiccups along the way, we happy to say we have not suffered the frustrations that many seem vented anger over.



Many thanks again Kavanlar, we are truly thrilled with our home and look forward to taking up residence later this month.



Lemtich



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03/10/2008 17:52

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Hi niftyduo



Are you in Phase 1 or Phase 2?



Lem



scampy



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03/10/2008 18:06

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lem they are on phase 2



KAVENKOY


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good nesw niftyduo



glad to here its all going to plan .The service we also recieved with kavanlar when snagging etc was very good.Quite right kavanlar and the team have done well and should be praised for that.



I also found ilker and fuat good guys trying their best to help .



hope it all works out well ,bit warmer than rochdale



kav (oldham)



niftyduo


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03/10/2008 19:29

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You are right Kav, it is thick jumper time back here in the UK. Can't wait to get back



ebbern5


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07/10/2008 20:28

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Can anyone tell me the price of having electric connected on phase 2.



our solicitor did ours and charged nearly 400.00 (sterling)



scampy



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ebbern5

yes thats right

susie x



cooper


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Hi Fellow Kav,s we have just returned from having stayed in our apartment for the first time.So first we would like say a big thank you to Geoff & Marion for getting our place all ready for us, even had some cold beer's in the fridge we we arrived cant be bad !.Thank you also to ilker and his team for sorting out a few teething problems we had.



It was a pleasure to meet so many nice fellow residents and we cant wait to catch up with you again sometime in the near future.



Whist we we there us people on site (about a dozen or so residents) held a meeting with Meps to discuss our concerns and the overall opinion was that we feel they will do a excellent job so us residents have started to make payment in order for them to apply for the meters on our behalf so we can have all block & communial lighting ASAP.





Mr & Mrs cooperman



liz w



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12/10/2008 16:44

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Hi Cooper, this is my first post and I just wanted to say that we have met some lovely people on the site and can't wait till we meet up again. Had a brilliant holiday and being able to finally stay in our apartment was brilliant, we do still have the odd teething problem which we hope to get ironed out at the end of November when we are out for 9 days, we are looking forward to it already.

Hope you had a good birthday ,give our love to the missus



Liz



Lemtich



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13/10/2008 01:20

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Just out of jolly old interest, now that the kocans are ready, according to Fatma from Kavanlar.



Has anyone actually received one?



Just asking..........



Lem



Lemtich



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13/10/2008 11:54

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I'll take that as a "No" then.



Lem



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I don't know if you have noticed, but I have added the "kavanlar apartments" to popular tags so you can access to all related posts much more easily.



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/kavanlar-apartments.asp



cooper


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14/10/2008 09:34

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Thanks Izzet



Cooper



johnnyp


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15/10/2008 01:08

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hi suzi hope you are well and happ y

i am comming out to the apartment for10 days from the 6th november to sort out the appartment.Can you please clean the flat and I will pay you when I get over there,the electricity is on, but the water needs to be ordered.via tanker delivery. Any problems with this give me a shout. We are apartment 5 block f. Also could you organise a tanker of water for block f appartment 6 as we need to test the water as we need to test for leaks.Thanks for this, look forward to meeting you.Best wishes John phillips. T



scampy



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15/10/2008 11:13

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Hi Johnnyp



Yeh leave it with me I will sort it out for you

Susie x



steveg1947


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16/10/2008 20:33

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Hi Susie and everyone else, especially Phase 2 Block 5.

We are out there4 next weekend, 25th, for a week, staying at a friend's in Esenteppe. Could you do a clean in Apartment 6 Block 5 (E) and we will sort the money out when we get there?

Who do I need to contact to get water and electricity meters sorted out?

I will email Ilker to sort out the A/C units.

If there is anything else that you think I should be thinking of, please let me know, my email is stephengittins@hotmail.com.

Thanks Susie, Steve and Jean



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Hi Susie and everyone else, especially Phase 2 Block 5.

We are out there4 next weekend, 25th, for a week, staying at a friend's in Esenteppe. Could you do a clean in Apartment 6 Block 5 (E) and we will sort the money out when we get there?

Who do I need to contact to get water and electricity meters sorted out?

I will email Ilker to sort out the A/C units.

If there is anything else that you think I should be thinking of, please let me know, my email is stephengittins@hotmail.com.

Thanks Susie, Steve and Jean



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Hi Susie and everyone else, especially Phase 2 Block 5.

We are out there4 next weekend, 25th, for a week, staying at a friend's in Esenteppe. Could you do a clean in Apartment 6 Block 5 (E) and we will sort the money out when we get there?

Who do I need to contact to get water and electricity meters sorted out?

I will email Ilker to sort out the A/C units.

If there is anything else that you think I should be thinking of, please let me know, my email is stephengittins@hotmail.com.

Thanks Susie, Steve and Jean



scampy



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Hi Steveg1947



Contact ilker asap about the electric and water but as you are in the same block as me I get use mine if its not connected

Who has got the keys ??

Susie x



Oh I have booked it in for the 27th to be on the safe side



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Hi Susie and everyone else, especially Phase 2 Block 5.

We are out there4 next weekend, 25th, for a week, staying at a friend's in Esenteppe. Could you do a clean in Apartment 6 Block 5 (E) and we will sort the money out when we get there?

Who do I need to contact to get water and electricity meters sorted out?

I will email Ilker to sort out the A/C units.

If there is anything else that you think I should be thinking of, please let me know, my email is stephengittins@hotmail.com.

Thanks Susie, Steve and Jean



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Hi Susie and everyone else, especially Phase 2 Block 5.

We are out there4 next weekend, 25th, for a week, staying at a friend's in Esenteppe. Could you do a clean in Apartment 6 Block 5 (E) and we will sort the money out when we get there?

Who do I need to contact to get water and electricity meters sorted out?

I will email Ilker to sort out the A/C units.

If there is anything else that you think I should be thinking of, please let me know, my email is stephengittins@hotmail.com.

Thanks Susie, Steve and Jean



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Hi Susie and everyone else, especially Phase 2 Block 5.

We are out there4 next weekend, 25th, for a week, staying at a friend's in Esenteppe. Could you do a clean in Apartment 6 Block 5 (E) and we will sort the money out when we get there?

Who do I need to contact to get water and electricity meters sorted out?

I will email Ilker to sort out the A/C units.

If there is anything else that you think I should be thinking of, please let me know, my email is stephengittins@hotmail.com.

Thanks Susie, Steve and Jean



johnnyp


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we got the message steve



steveg1947


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Hi Susie and everyone else, especially Phase 2 Block 5.

We are out there4 next weekend, 25th, for a week, staying at a friend's in Esenteppe. Could you do a clean in Apartment 6 Block 5 (E) and we will sort the money out when we get there?

Who do I need to contact to get water and electricity meters sorted out?

I will email Ilker to sort out the A/C units.

If there is anything else that you think I should be thinking of, please let me know, my email is stephengittins@hotmail.com.

Thanks Susie, Steve and Jean



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Hi Susie and everyone else, especially Phase 2 Block 5.

We are out there4 next weekend, 25th, for a week, staying at a friend's in Esenteppe. Could you do a clean in Apartment 6 Block 5 (E) and we will sort the money out when we get there?

Who do I need to contact to get water and electricity meters sorted out?

I will email Ilker to sort out the A/C units.

If there is anything else that you think I should be thinking of, please let me know, my email is stephengittins@hotmail.com.

Thanks Susie, Steve and Jean



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Steve and Jean are out on the 25th for a week !



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do they need their appartment cleaning a few times ?



kav



gemma


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This is a record of a meeting with meps and some of the agreed issues.

I am logged into Gemmas computer but the message is from Sticke.





As one of the participants of the meeting can I point out some of the omissions and additional points which may help clarify the issue for ourselves and others.



1) Meps have agreed to finance the initial landscaping and that it will be in theme with local environmental conditions.

2) Meps have agreed with Kavanlar that they will provide security cameras



Both of these will not incur costs for residents of KavankoyII.



3) Meps will provide a detailed list of what the monthly charge (40) will cover and what it will not cover.

4) MEPS will provide a detailed list of what the 100 emergency fund will cover and what it will not cover.

5) Meps will provide detailed accounts for residents of KavankoyII on a spreadsheet every three months.

6) Meps will look at a password protected on-line balance sheet for K2 residents.

Continued



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7) No large scale spending will take place without the approval of the residents. Three estimates will be found.

8) It was proposed that a group of (permanent) residents might represent the owners of the apartments. One representative per block.

The general feeling of those present was that the meeting was constructive and helpful. However, in relation to 3 and 4 above it was generally agreed that until the detailed lists were provided that the agreed sums were to be withheld.



In some blocks MEPS have had KIBTEC install meters and stairwell lighting exists.

MEPS are to have an office on site in Block D apartment 1.



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Re 49

Kav

Whats that question about I don't understand,

They want a builders clean....

Susie x



scampy



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well if you want a chat you know where I am, I have to go out i about and hour or so to take my daughter to football



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re 52 susie its on 8times as a repeat ,thought they needed it cleaning a few times ,lol.



lighten up get iwth it girl



kav



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Kav



Sorry I am very uptight at the minute Had a really bad week,



I need to relax now for the weekend before my head explodes

And being blonde that wouldn't be nice......

Susie x



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no worries



go have a beer with that phase 1er lol



kav



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Hi again, I don't know why my message was repeated! We are only coming out once, on Saturday 25th!

I only want the apartment cleaned ONCE!! LOL

We will probably visit the site on the Sunday, once we have got our hire car.

Susie, if you could do the builder's clean we would be very grateful. Although our original contract said we had bought Apartment 5 in Block 5, once we saw that the block had been reorientated we decided on Apt 6 instead.



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Hi Stevie1947

Yes leave it with me

Susie x



Kav



Had a couple of bacardi breezers and a chat I am relaxed happy bunny now,

Susie x



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hi all i am coming out on the 6th nov and staying at the apartment how is the weather looking?



scampy



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bit chilly at night but its ok over here



johnnyp


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susie how do we start part 9 ?



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susie how is my apartment looking and have thay finish the roof yet ?if you have some pic please post them have a nice drink x



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Hi cooper



Good to meet you and thanks to you both for showing us round [ twice!] your apartment when we were trying to get a feel for the size and layout of ours on phase 4 a couple of weeks ago. Really appreciate it.

Since viewing have now exchanged for one on phase 3 at the back of the whole development .

Hope to see you again in the sunshine!



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Hi ,



Very little action on here at the moment . Does that mean that everyone is over the moon with their purchase + have nothing to report . If its good or bad news lets hear it . We've just returned from a fantastic 3 weeks on Kav 2 , spent a lot of good time with Bill + Linda [ Stickle ] , Geoff + Marion [ Gemma ] , Chris + Alison [ Cooperman ] and all . We sorted any remaining things out positively + it seems that Meps are springing into action on all fronts .

Looking forward to our next visit when we will see alot of changes .



HP .



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Sorry , I should have said BNTTT - Back nearly to the top , LOL .



HP



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Hi hp

There is part 9 now

Susie x



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Hi NiftyDuo!!!



Are you my lovely neighbours from across the way?!!

I read your message about Kavanlar and if my super powers of deduction are correct ITS YOU!!!!!!!



How are you both?



Sarah xx



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Sarah,

Are you a radio 1 jock,

Paul.



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We'll wave to you on Thursday Sarah or come and find you at work! See you soon



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25/10/2008 23:12

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We'll wave to you on Thursday Sarah or come and find you at work! See you soon



niftyduo


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Message Posted:
28/10/2008 18:54

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Hi all you guys, we are coming out on Wednesday, phase II, and staying for a month. Will anybody else be around?



augusta



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Message Posted:
28/10/2008 19:00

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how does it work....I mean getting access to other posts easier???!!



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