Management Companies

roughandslow


Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 21

Message Posted:
30/03/2011 13:30

Hi out there,



We are looking for a new management company and are hoping that some could be posted.

We have the name of one and would appreciate any feed back from you.

They are Vistamar Management in Esentepe.



Many thanks



Dave and Barbara Ratcliffe

akayoptic


Joined: 04/03/2011
Posts: 125

Message Posted:
30/03/2011 14:02

There is a company in Nicosia called "The Management Centre" where we took help during our ISO certificate preparing period.

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
30/03/2011 14:23

I have worked with Vistamar before and found them diligent and professional.

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
30/03/2011 16:02

Message 3. I would imagine David & Barbara are looking for comments from property owners rather than a 'business' relationship perspective!

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
30/03/2011 16:24

Try First Consult Cyprus (banner at the top of the page) They manage complexes and private homes.

keith


Joined: 03/04/2007
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
30/03/2011 16:27

try D&B relly good reports

Keith

keith


Joined: 03/04/2007
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
30/03/2011 16:28

Try looking thrtough this thread may help you



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/9981.asp



Keith

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
30/03/2011 22:02

I've heard good reports about Lynx.

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
30/03/2011 22:13

Seems you havent heard about the state of some of there sites then doyen lol

Its the same old axe grinders still gettin digs in eh.

I wish we had Vistamar or better still First consult



Dave & Barbara

Enter maintenance companies or management companies in the search box at the top of the page and you will learn a lot, believe me, and you will see the slag off merchants that dont know owt about running sites, so dont listen to them make up your own minds after seeing what is on offer, but a word to the wise, if they dont adhere to the new floor easement law or dont know about it, mebee steer clear, remember you (elected comittee) write the constitution and rules and then they tender.

mikeyCBBR


Joined: 05/01/2009
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
30/03/2011 22:44

we had Lynx and now use Donaghy and Bayler so far so good

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
31/03/2011 01:58

Vistamar manage a complex on which I am an owner, they are doing a sterling job for us and have the backing of the majority of owners. I have no hesitation in endorsing them.

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
31/03/2011 10:35

Message 9 "if they dont adhere to the new floor easement law or dont know about it, mebee steer clear, remember you (elected comittee) write the constitution and rules and then they tender."



Very well said billybob. Dave & Barbara, the above as said by billybob is the MIMIMUM you should be looking for when selecting a company to run your site. Once that is established, then examine their credentials and competence to run your site.



Message 11. I take it that Vistamar now comply with all of the above 'minimum standards' as mentioned by billybob!!

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
31/03/2011 11:04

Dave & Barbara,

The have a go at Management companies brigade will never relent, suffice to say that every management company now have a laid down set of rules to adhere to if they want to have any recourse to law in the event of non payment disputes etc.

This was not available to people or Companies until recently, and many owners and some companies had their own ideas of how things should be done, however some of the more vociferous people who named company names and made public accusations, many that they could not substantiate were bang out of order, it was a case of stir the sh1t as much as possible to get a result, and unfortunately in our case we ended up with a much worse site as a result.

The people who said the things they did, did so in the knowledge that the legal system in the TRNC was to say the least 'minimalistic' and they would most likely get away with it.

We wish you well and you should really talk to First consult and Vistamar and look at the sites they run.

citrus


Joined: 08/11/2010
Posts: 137

Message Posted:
31/03/2011 15:44

hello



we can also help you with management,



please contact us for more info and help



enquiries@property-management-north-cyprus.com



http://www.property-management-north-cyprus.com



Many thanks



Citrus

keith


Joined: 03/04/2007
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
31/03/2011 16:27

I would look at as many as you can and ask each to put a tender in .

Also you would have to decide if you want a fund or a fee

Keith

clairegordon


Joined: 18/11/2010
Posts: 105

Message Posted:
31/03/2011 17:07

Do I take it that none of the companies that run these business's are aware of the proper procedures and directives to be followed, which were recently implemented, because by some of the replies it would appear that some are suggesting they may not be conversant ?.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
31/03/2011 17:32

Message 16 - many are not conversant and do not abide by the new 'Floor of Easment Law' if they don't I would not touch them with a barge pole !



The law is there to follow which both protects all owners and MC's, however if not followed you may not have any recourse to take non-payers to court if necessary, it also protects the spending as full receipt accounts have to be kept

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
31/03/2011 17:57

First consult failed on our site to collect the monies in and they dumped us as if it was our fault. In the beginning they told us that there was a new apartment law and that they would take non-payers to court. It never happened. They found it too tough and left us.



We now have our own management committee and now that we do not have to raise almost £1200 per month for the management company coffers we have found that we can cope with the very few non-payers. This is what we should have done in the first place after dumping the builder.



Be very careful before appointing a management company. We did lots of research and still got bitten!

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
31/03/2011 18:02

Very wise and good luck sounds a good move



Can I ask how many your site is out of interest?

raidercruise


Joined: 07/06/2010
Posts: 237

Message Posted:
31/03/2011 19:59

Try Platinum Properties..They are good. or lets say Fresh Blood. Won't let you down.I can recommend them million times..because of their wonderful service.



go to their web page if you want or call them



http://www.platinumproperties-northcyprus.com



0542 851 1136

Arnold


Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
01/04/2011 14:54

A word of advice: ask them if they have any court orders against them...if so walk away, dont touch them with a barge pole.



Otherwise your asking for a lifetime of trouble!

hodgeliz


Joined: 16/10/2010
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
01/04/2011 18:35

Oh god pipies back in her other guise again

hodgeliz


Joined: 16/10/2010
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
01/04/2011 18:38

Message 18 I take it you all chipped in to put up the money to form your own company to keep it all legal, seeing as the Social sigorta are now taking a special interest

bazzagirl


Joined: 09/05/2010
Posts: 525

Message Posted:
01/04/2011 19:41

I would not recommend First Consult Cyprus theyve been on my site for 2 years and its in a worst state than before they took it over and they are well over the top moneywise, i cannot wait for them to go.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
01/04/2011 19:51

It really seems to be a problem eh good MC companies - good job we have one



I always thought FC were one of the good guys !?

bazzagirl


Joined: 09/05/2010
Posts: 525

Message Posted:
02/04/2011 10:16

OH NO NO NO, go and have a look at the Sea Vistas Site in Caatalkoy if you want evidence, also weve never had a choice of who we want as a management company its never been put out to tender ever in 4 years.

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
02/04/2011 12:11

Message 18 I would like to hear your answer to message 23 as well,

message 24 you want to look at the gardens round Joya and I think its lynx that does them, whot a mess ! and as for Turquoise bay, well it looks like summat from the Japan earthquake with all its cracks and sinking pavements



I know the present MC on one site took over a lovely looking site and that (some) owners give them loads of credit for making it that way when it in fact was the last lot that made it that way.

I look at forest golf at Esentepe and see a good well run site, but hey it might have problems as well.

Another site has a few trying to get there way and get rid of a MC even though the majority are happy with them.

Abode seems to do a good job on the site opposite Emily's, but some on there not happy.

The crystal bay small site at bacheli with the tennis court is a mess as well.

Turtle bay is going down hill as well

It will never end till all get the floor easement law implemented

Cont

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
02/04/2011 12:12

but that takes money and proper organisation, and most of the crows dont have a clue how to go about it

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
02/04/2011 12:23

Well we turned our site around



We now have money to spend on what WE as owners want to spend it on

We know where every penny goes

We work with our MC

We have almost no non-payers - struggling with 3 at the moment but they WILL be brought to task

We repair and improve the site all the time



Dedicated committee - 97% dedicated owners and a good working relationship with the MC - open and frank discussions and solutions - IT CAN BE DONE

bazzagirl


Joined: 09/05/2010
Posts: 525

Message Posted:
02/04/2011 14:47

sienna which management company do you have? bazzagirl

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
03/04/2011 15:50

Message 27; "I know the present MC on one site took over a lovely looking site and that (some) owners give them loads of credit for making it that way when it in fact was the last lot that made it that way."



Re the above, which site are you referring to Greg? (billybob)

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
03/04/2011 19:02

As an owner on one of the sites mentioned above, (Forest Golf @ Esentepe) that use First Consult (also mentioned) to carry out the Management I believe this is a topic in which I have a bit of a say.

The Committee have used FCC for the previous two years, and because they have provided a first class service throughout this period we have recently negotiated a further two year contract for their services.

We, like most other sites, have owners who always want to see the problems and not the progress made, but once you sit down with them and have a reasonable conversation, (and remind them that it is the Committee that make the decisions where the money is spent) then they tend to see the other side of the coin.

Michael

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
03/04/2011 19:19

From experience, I would recommend First Consult Cyprus.

They have provided me, on several occasions with services out with of their remit.

They took on a challenge with our development and working closely with our committee have shown what a professional company can do.

But, it is worth noting that Management companies do not have magic wands and should be managed themselves by a duly elected committee.



Chegwin

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 18:36

Messege 31 .



Milzer



So am I right in presuming Greg is Billy bob ?

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 19:50

The hare has got the scent. Run billybob, Run....................

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
05/04/2011 10:33

The hare has the wrong scent old son, she couldn't be further from the truth, but whats her problem anyway she is obsessed with the fella

Graham/martin, theres loads of places I could be refering to you work it out

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
05/04/2011 10:55

Maybe she is in denial that she secretly fancies this billybob. Be a laugh if billybob turned out to be a woman. But I would still run billybob, run like the clappers, cos if by what I have read of her posts if you get caught you’ll need more than a keyboard to help you out.

Now, back to MC.

We have enough exposure by the one who supported a failing MC and then shut up about how great they were so can we concentrate on advising as to who are still providing great service and I will say again that in my opinion I rate FCC as up there with the best.

raidercruise


Joined: 07/06/2010
Posts: 237

Message Posted:
05/04/2011 11:28

Try Platinum Properties..They are really good. Specially if you are in Esentepe side



http://www.platinumproperties-northcyprus.com



0542 851 1136



or Meleks Property in Kyrenia. She is good for that area..

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
05/04/2011 11:49

Dont think its me she fancies, think its greg, shes always talking about him



Got to agree First consult = first class, tried & tested

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
05/04/2011 12:06

Has any one the contact address for Meleks please ?

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
05/04/2011 12:50

All you have to do is use the search facility.

Is this what you want



melekproperty@gmail.com



03928160755



05338715310

flutterby


Joined: 11/01/2008
Posts: 214

Message Posted:
05/04/2011 15:03

Re message 27 and 31, I am also very interested to know what site you are referring to?



Sometimes the aesthetic look of a site does not actually portray the underlying problems that have not been addressed!!!! Or the hearsays that can be wrongly spread and interpreted by those 'not in the know'!!!

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
05/04/2011 21:25

billybob, message 36.



Just that yourself and Greg both appear to have separate yet remarkably similar opinions about a certain (as yet) un named site being very nice with its previous MC. Personally I couldn't care less whether you are or are not one and the same person.......... 'old son' wink wink ;-)

64Stuart



Joined: 26/07/2010
Posts: 33

Message Posted:
05/04/2011 21:58

Hi there



We are using http://www.dreamhomesnorthcyprus.com/ and have been happy with the service



Ask for Nicky



Stuart

hodgeliz


Joined: 16/10/2010
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
06/04/2011 00:30

Message 43 i think you have a bit of a self obsessed concience that this person is talking about where you live heaven forbid, i also think you should stick to the topic, which begs the question where are the mods here ??

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
06/04/2011 10:18

LOL !! so who is keeping on topic messages 22 23 ??????????????



Message 1 do you home work carefully otherwise it will end up in complete misery like some of the sites out there !!

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
06/04/2011 12:19

hodgeliz message 45. no not self obsessed at all, but if this person is talking about where I live i'd just like them to come out and say it thats all! Whats the big issue about naming the site? If its the site that I'm on then I can more than substantiate how much better our site is now, from EVERY ASPECT, and not just the gardens and message 42 sums it up perfectly. However, as you say, this is off topic, so I will say no more than that.

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
06/04/2011 17:53

sienna - 48 apartments

Sundance


Joined: 15/07/2010
Posts: 213

Message Posted:
06/04/2011 17:59

I would stay clear from Lynx, Jackie, Alex and Samantha have all left, and the level of service has fallen,



But Thats Just My Opinion



Sundance

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
06/04/2011 18:10

Message 48 glad things are going ok, 48 is quite a small number to manage and get committment from our MC is D&B and theyare doing a great job and work well with the committee. Nice to hear other sites are doing well so not all doom and gloom

jacky60s


Joined: 07/06/2010
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 15:08

Try Mustafa Platinum Properties.Very good and sincere chap. Descent Price. He will be renting my property as well.



0542-8511136



go to their web page

http://www.platinumproperties-northcyprus.com

ClareW


Joined: 11/02/2009
Posts: 53

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 16:49

Heard very good reports from several Owners (incl some who were initially sceptical re the change of management company) re First Consult along the lines of 32 and 33 above. I have met the Owner, Incilay Fell who is very knowledgeable and helpful and has a great way of dealing with problems which are bound to occur anywhere whoever you have in place. (I have no link to the Company - or any other management company - and so no axe to grind !)

Good luck as I realise from previous experience it can make such a difference to the smooth running of a site.

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 17:06

sienna



Our site works well too and in respect of taking non payers to court doesnt have to be under the new legislation we have done ours under the existing condeminium law which has always been in place here..



We luckily only have a few but if payments dont come in the site cant be maintained end of story.



We have a good relationship with our management company who we speak to on a very regular basis again that helps.





good to know therr are some sucess stories