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tinker


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Message Posted:
09/10/2008 18:58

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How long is it before permanent residency can be obtained...

How much will it cost ...

What are the advantages if any...

Free prescriptions , dolmus pass ... etc ...



tinker



Groucho



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Message Posted:
09/10/2008 19:21

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It takes five years to get permanent residency but I don't think it bestows the pros you are looking for....



tinker


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Message Posted:
09/10/2008 19:24

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Are there any avantages Groucho...

Or will it be another waste of money...



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Groucho



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Message Posted:
09/10/2008 19:55

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There are advantages...



1. you don't have to make annual applications for residency...



2. you don't have to pay to stay any more....



If you are living here... and you don't apply you are persona non grata and will be fined heavily. Preventing you re-entering the TRNC without said payment... be warned it can run into many thousands of YTL!



So apply, do the right thing and feel safe.... yeah safe, not wondering every time you are stopped by the police of the border guards if today is the day?



smithy


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09/10/2008 20:38

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Hi Groucho

I am doing my 4th year of Residency next week but was told when the five years are up if you want to apply for the full Residency it can cost you up to a 1,000 or you just carry on renewing it every year after the 5th year, but everyone says different, but I know it cost you. If the info is right I will just go on renewing it, blow if I'm going to give them that sort of money.

Smithy



Groucho



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Message Posted:
09/10/2008 20:46

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This is noe for Elko2...



Ismet,



At the end of five yearsw temporary residency how much does it cost to apply for permanent status as opposed to citizenship... which is now 15 years?



joanie1


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Message Posted:
09/10/2008 20:46

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Why not save yourselves money and enjoy yourselves by having a little holiday off the island every 86 days - or has that suddenly become against the rules?



Groucho



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09/10/2008 20:52

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It is against the rules... if you know when you enter the Island that you plan to stay you should apply for residency within 30 days even if they do give you a ninety day visa... it's not right to avoid paying taxes legally due... this country is starved of enough income without ex-pats playing fast and loose....



It's obviously a difficult one to police but I think it's essentially dishonest, that's just the way I see it...



smithy


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Message Posted:
09/10/2008 21:05

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Hi Groucho

I agree and I have played by the rules and renewed my Residency every year, but there is no way I can afford to pay up to a thousand pounds for a permanent Residency, if they say thats the case well I for one will just carry on renewing each year.

smithy



tinker


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Message Posted:
09/10/2008 21:13

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Back to the question... What advantages do you get after paying 1000...

Are you sure it's 1000 & not 1000YTL



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tinker


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09/10/2008 21:15

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Back to the question... What advantages do you get after paying 1000...

Are you sure it's 1000 & not 1000YTL



Tinker



tinker


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09/10/2008 21:17

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Back to the question... What advantages do you get after paying 1000...

Are you sure it's 1000 & not 1000YTL



Tinker



tinker


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09/10/2008 21:19

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Don't know what is happening with the computer... Only meant to post once



smithy


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09/10/2008 22:15

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Hi Tinker

I was told 1,000 Sterling from someone who has renewed their Residency for the five years and went to find out about getting a permanent Residency, then was told they will have to pay that amount, why? when you can just renew it, there are no advantages that I can think of, no cheaper Hospital fees etc nothing, we have racked our brains (whats left of it) for the advantages but can't think of anything that warrants paying it.

Smithy



tarry67


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09/10/2008 23:38

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I have been here nearly 9 years and asked about getting permanent residency 4 years ago, but was told that I was too young at 48yrs as I had to have proof of a substantial pension coming into the country. They were asking around 500? then as a fee so never bothered. There is no gain in doing this at all.



newscoop


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Message Posted:
10/10/2008 06:00

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Been here ten years and had same experience as Tarry67. Also people should realise that getting permanent residency is not automatic, it is only granted if you meet all the ever changing criteria or failing that know the right people. Incidentally, only thirty odd residency applications have been successful in last two years.



Groucho



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10/10/2008 08:36

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"Incidentally, only thirty odd residency applications have been successful in last two years. "



Where did you get this figure from?



What if only 30 people applied?



I have nver heard of anyone who applied being turned down till now...



Elko2, do you know what the rules are and who decides?



cyprusishome


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Message Posted:
10/10/2008 08:53

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I query on two points.



The last I heard it was about 500ytl for permanent residency application plus the additional medical costs.



Will someone please quote a FACT on this not just hearsay, rumour and speculation?



Second the figure quoted of 30 succesful, is this permanent residency or citezenship, they are 2 discrete entities.



When I checked out the maths following the changes earlier this year I worked out that as we intend to continue living here permanently then the initial cost of permanent residency paid for itself over annual renewal after 4 years.



smithy


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Newscoop

Wouldn't it be good if all the Immigrants in the UK went through this sort of criteria, if we are not going to sponge off the TRNC why should we have to be considered and know the right people, but I agree over here you do have to know them, with my luck I won't be one of the 30 people but will just carry on until a new rule comes out

Smithy



newscoop


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11/10/2008 07:10

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The figure quoted came from a very iffy source. The BRS! as for the criteria i can`t grumble with having to be a house or land owner, no problems with proof of adequate funding, but it`s a bit harsh when you`re told that because you are too young for a pension then it`s no go. Finally I will reiterate, permanent residency is not an automatic given no matter how many years you have been resident here.



icklepix


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Message Posted:
23/10/2008 23:15

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hey chaps how many years can u exist without having to apply for permanent residency, i'm only 32 and would like to move to the island but keep reading u have to be retired before u can have permanent residency, does this mean i can only stay for a certain amount of time or can i exist on the temporary residency?



fire starter


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Message Posted:
24/10/2008 14:46

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iclepix

if you have an income from outside the trnc,then you aply for residence on a retired basis.

if you have cash in the bank in the uk paying good interests that is enough, to show them you have funds to support yourself here.



icklepix


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24/10/2008 15:43

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thanks its all very confusing, and forgive me i seem a little daft but what do u mean by goods interest???



icklepix


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27/10/2008 15:45

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fire starter - I have just reread ur reply and now it makes sense so ignore my previous post!



scruff


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27/10/2008 21:52

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I know both a couple & an individual who have been granted Permanent Residency. From memory it cost the couple nearly 1,000 fees for the pair of them to obtain Permanent Residency - not each. It is a long drawn out process. It took them over a year & they had to renew their temporary residency before they finally got Permanent granted. It is not a forgone conclusion that it will be granted. You will not get it if you do not have a title deed transferred into your name & certainly in the past you could not get Perm. residency if you were renting.



I have been here seven years & have seven temp.residency stamps. Because of the cost of obtaining Perm. residency I am not going to bother. It would take 7/8 yrs to pay for itself.



scoobydoo


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Message Posted:
11/11/2008 22:50

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Why not ring up the immigration office and ask them! We applied for our final residency January 2007 and by May 07 we had our permanent residency cards, at that time it cost each of us 1000ytl plus 135ytl each for medical costs. Telephone 0392 611 1022.



newscoop


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Message Posted:
12/11/2008 05:51

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Pros and cons for obtaing temporary residency?



Ask the Petch family.



guinness


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Message Posted:
12/11/2008 11:14

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To look at the other side of the coin - do you all know how much it costs to be resident in Britain?



My wife of 8 years - from a non EU country - recently acquired residency for the UK for just 2 years duration. It cost 1008 USD at a British Consulate. (At the time the exchange rate was about 1.97 to the pound.)



For that she is restricted as to her travel outside the UK (90 days a year). Then after 2 years she has to make further application to prove her suitability to be allowed permanent residence in the UK for an even higher fee. Oh yes, and we were married in the UK too.



She looks forward to acquiring residence in TRNC and then applying for citizenship as the UK govt make it so difficult for a legitimate spouse to be given UK citizenship. She now has no interest in becoming a UK citizen thanks to her treatment by the UK govt, and I am ashamed.



Give TRNC a chance, it could be worse - you don't know what our government does to others. Think about it.



Guin



PtePike



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Message Posted:
12/11/2008 13:36

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Seems little point in spending all that time and money when the chances are that in less than a year EU freedom of movement will apply anywhere in Cyprus.



guinness


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Quite right PP, but in the EU there is freedom of movement and freedom of movement. It depends if you're in a Schengen state or not. UK is not of course. But the French want to take 3 weeks to vet my wife's application in London to go there on a holiday to the family home. Its a Schengen requirement. But if you apply from outside the Schengen states and EU, you can get a 6 month Schengen visa in 24 hours. I don't want to say which countries as it might jeopardise the situation ;o)



The joys of being an expat worker married to a foreigner !



cheers



guin



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