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tlvccom


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26/05/2011 14:40

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there are an abundance of pool cleaning companies in TRNC,

but how many of these companies have been on an accredited pool training course?covering Chemical balance etc.

the only 2 companies i know are ABODE PROPERTY MANAGMENT AND COOL POOLS (donaghyandbeyler)

Are their any others?



0maintenance


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26/05/2011 20:07

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Pooltech in the east. Papers can be seen if needed.



0maintenance


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Oh tlvccom,i forgot to mention,also the only company @ present who can offer a chlorine free swimming pool @ a cost of 8x4 £55 per month and a 10x5 £65 per month.





Happy chlorine free swimming folks



joseph


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26/05/2011 20:23

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And to add to message three... as a customer... I can definately recommend Pooltech.



Never miss a cleaning appointment.

Regular emails as to condition of pool.

always ready to offer advice and or recommendations if sought.

Baris and Joanne are thoroughly nice people; a young couple who have built an excellent reputation.



In conjunction with use of Zerochlor they have been superb.. Nuff said



Joseph



tlvccom


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26/05/2011 20:36

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so 3 companies so far with qualifications to clean pools!

Any others



tlvccom


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Just to add, i know the 2 companies personally and are All excellent at their jobs with pools

and have long standing contracts with their customers

investing in themselves and staff training with pool course is not cheap, one school in Istanbul and the other school in Kent UK.

I wonder how long it will be before the TRNC Government insist on training?



0maintenance


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27/05/2011 08:17

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Great idea tlvccom.



Must get my friend to suggest this to 1 of the goverment ministers.Would be great to get rid of all the cowboys and illigal pool cleaners who undercut the legal workers and dont really do a great job.



http://www.zerochlor.co.uk



Happy chlorine free swimming folks



TRNCVaughan


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Give it a go. Government ministers here are really receptive to new ideas. They'll love that one and I bet they'll fall over themselves pushing it through the legislation.



0maintenance


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28/05/2011 11:51

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ZEROCHLOR.



Still the only company in cyprus to be able to offer a totally 100% chlorine free swimming experience @ an affordable price.



8x4 £55 per month

10x5 £65 per month





Happy chlorine free swimming folks



http://www.zerochlor.co.uk



tlvccom


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28/05/2011 12:37

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i read a post from you moaning about hijacking posts !!!!

this is about trained and certificated companies that invest in themselves



if zerochlor pool cleaners have the qualification please let us know



otherwise no more Hijacks





0maintenance


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28/05/2011 12:42

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They have the Qualified staff.



i would not of been moaning.



i would of been making a comment



Almaz


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28/05/2011 12:58

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May I strongly recommend you Sure Home Services company. Prices and quality gonna be very attractive.

Tel: 0533 821 73 87



fosterscan


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28/05/2011 13:09

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omaintainence

"Would be great to get rid of all the cowboys and illegal pool cleaners who undercut the legal workers and don't really do a great job."

Recommendations should stop them not doing a great job.

The problem with companies that have 'qualified' staff is if the boss is qualified well done but he wont be the one doing the job.Experience out way papers and common sense is the most valuable qualification and you cant BUY that.



waddo


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28/05/2011 13:26

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Hmmmm NVQ's spring to mind! How do you get one? Even better how has the qualified "Boss" received the qualification? How do you get experience also? 20 years of putting a spark plug in an engine but failing to torque it down properly will not mean you are qualified nor make you any good?



Good training is invaluable and you can't get good training from a person that is not first qualified themselves. Paperwork finishes the job, as always.



fosterscan


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Waddo

sorry i don't agree with you.

Not torque in a spark plug to the exact spec wont make a difference, too loose and it miss fires too tight and the thread strips,either way you learn quickly.You don't qualify to be a parent but you learn a lot from your own parents the right way and wrong way.



0maintenance


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That is where were different,the guys doing the cleaning are national pool institute certified also.



Hope that helps.



Happy chlorine free swimming folks



waddo


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28/05/2011 14:02

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Fosterscan, agree with you on the parents thing - that is probably why loads of kids end up in jail and loads of kids don't, all learn from their parents but do all their parents teach to the same book of rules? So all kids are qualified but in different things - not all good. How many engines can you wreck whilst you "learn" by your experience? Must be happy to have a medical doctor practice on you as well whilst they gain experience in how to operate! Would rather see the qualification myself



David, sent you an email by the way.



JohhnyLee


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28/05/2011 14:15

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I have . But it means nothing. Because I have not kept it up. Yes I have the certificate.



From a first class company in the UK.



But I firmly believe that like any other trade, the only way to learn it is to get in there and do it.



We have what must be one of the finest and most honest guys in TRNC. He was trained by the Grandmaster, Vaughan.



fosterscan


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Waddo

i do agree the doctors need to be properly trained by experanced people but someone has to be first to try it. Go in to any uk leisure center and ask to see there pool cleaners quailfications they can show you cosh but not a lot else .They phone a specialist company if they have a major problem as a last resort.We all need to learn from experenced people but we dont need a qualifcation to be able to do the job correctly.



dizzycows


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Even with all the certificates that the pool company have or the boss, it is the employees that they start to use when you are not there all the time! They promise you that they will be cleaning the pool, nobody else, then you turn up unexpected and find the pool being cleaned by a boy who hasn't a clue on pool cleaning !



Think its by trail and eliminate .... We have been through 4 companies in 5 yrs, all promised the earth, all dismally failed.... Just keeping fingers crossed for this latest one ...



waddo


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28/05/2011 14:47

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The qualification - unless you just bought it like a dodgy driving license - shows you have been tested against a set standard that experts in that particular field have agreed upon. That is just the start, after obtaining a qualification then the real education starts, as any experienced driver will agree with. I must presume by "cosh" you mean COSHH which is not a qualification at all but a set of UK regulations relating to control of hazardous substances - it is normally displayed with a risk assessment in an attempt to protect employees and persons from known hazards, generally chemical in nature. You would be right to expect to view it in any area where chemicals are used in the UK and normally the risk assessment will also state who can handle such chemicals and how they are to handle them - hence the need for a specialist company who employ "qualified" staff.



0maintenance


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28/05/2011 17:50

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Message 18



is Vaughan a freemason !



fantomm


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This country has no standard about swimming pool and all.

This island water is hard to use for pool business. Because the ideal range for calcium hardness is 250-350 ppm but this island, water is around 3000ppm. Therefore, it does not matter how much chemicals u used (chlorine or the others). If your range for calcium hardness is less 1000ppm.

I am director of indoor swimming pool, which is in international Cyprus University. I have 1200 tons of water in this pool. Our swimming pool water quality standard by Turkish Standards Institution ( TSE) ( Preparing Turkish standards, product and system certification, calibration, industrial metrology at national level).

Not any other pool companies donít use any standard or quality management system. Government doesnít have any control system for check. So you should be really carefully if u have swimming pool. And research what is swimming pool, water, chlorine, calcium etc...

Anyway I have ozone system and chlorine. Many companies



fantomm


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Anyway I have ozone system and chlorine. Many companies try to sell and sell. But they have no idea what are they selling. Because nobody control them. Good luck



0maintenance


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Here are the certificates of the guys who clean davids pools @ Zerochlor.



http://s847.photobucket.com/albums/ab37/zerochlor/national%20pool%20institute%20certs/



Happy chlorine free swimming folks



Tuttut


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31/05/2011 16:03

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tlvccom



Sounds like you may have been shafted by a pool man in the past??

can you enlighten us on this and name and shame?



Tuttut



0maintenance


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message 26



ouchh



JohnWG


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31/05/2011 21:13

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We should talk. I spent 18months obtaining a Ruhsat in Turkey for our pool materials and know well what is involved



Please give a contact number or e-mail



I have never measured above 300ppm on the North of Kyrenia range but you are the other side of the mountain and...



JohnWG


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31/05/2011 21:15

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We should talk. I spent 18months obtaining a Ruhsat in Turkey for our pool materials and know well what is involved



Please give a contact number or e-mail



I have never measured above 300ppm on the North of Kyrenia range but you are the other side of the mountain and...



tomsteel


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31/05/2011 21:55

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For whatever - interest! Qualification is but 25% of 'competency', which is what is what users want/require. The UK H&SW definition of competency is: Qualified, Current, Experienced and Mature. Does the TRNC apply this criteria - who knows?



0maintenance


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Tomsteel.



I know and my customers know.





Happy chlorine free swimming folks



eyebob


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01/06/2011 10:29

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Re message 18,Grandmaster Vaughan?!!!!!Your having a laugh.



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