Custody beatings in Northern Cyprus

newlad



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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 18:18

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/crime/turkish-cypriots-investigate-police-torture/20110603



A lack of forensic evidence,is the reason that the beatings take place.Time to move on i think,



Paul.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 19:28

Paul

A pretty damning report.



Richard

newlad



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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 19:32

Obviousy not thought provoking enough for the posters on here Richard,judging by the response,



Paul.

Bradus


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 19:35

Yes, but no dogs were tortured Paul!!!!!

Roomy


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 19:36

Midnight Express immediately springs to mind.

kaiserphil


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 19:36

Surely nobody would be surprised by this?

Confiscating property illegally is apparently part of their repertoire too. Ask 'misunderstood', as is ignoring crimes allegedly committed by a certain bank.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 19:41

Msg 4

About sums it up!



Richard

Scoty


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 19:45

Interesting to see if anything is done and a follow up report is published. Wont hold breathe though for it.



off to the queenbar now! lol

stilluvithere



Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 765

Message Posted:
03/06/2011 19:51

This has been going on for many years and used to the deterent for stopping crime. Now it doesn't seem to be working. I am not saying I agree with it, especially being a retired Prison officer

Oxoners


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 19:54

Can the officials sink any lower in TRNC, anyone who does not feel disgusted by this should seek help immediately.

Zoots


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 19:58

>>It is the first time that the Turkish Cypriot police, who remain under the command of the Turkish military, have faced any form of external scrutiny.<<

This is the most significant part of the report. The fact that beatings and fit-ups go on is nothing new, considering these uniformed thugs are answerable to no democratic organisation and last of all the people they are supposed to serve and protect.

This shows the TRNC's finest and bravest at their best:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tassos_Isaac

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
03/06/2011 20:12

Come on Pikey give it a rest mate;



Wasn't it last year that ROC plod were let off after kicking 7 bells out of a student despite being caught on video or CCTY?



Campbell you're a journo, where's your objectivity?

kibrisvisitor


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 20:18

AJ says if you do not like it ship out

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 20:21

Msg 12

A journalist that has risked his own life on the front-line reporting with unbiased transparency the truth in all recent World conflicts!

Sorry to admit, but I'm with you on this one!



Richard

Zoots


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 20:27

Msg 12,

Keep on topic. Are you saying you don't think the TC police pictured murdering this defenceless man should be brought to justice? Or the uniformed scum who shot dead the unarmed guy on the flagpole?

This is your chance to show the world what kind of man you are.

newlad



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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 20:52

I think its good that this has been publicised.Hopefully, the people that commited this act will be brought to justice.Its so big and hard to carry out acts like this,behind closed doors (not)



Paul.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 20:55

Msg 15

From memory, was it not a Turkish army soldier how shot a drug induced youth who'd climbed a Turkish flagpole setting fire to it, was warned on three occasions to descend but didn't and consequently shot?!

What little you must have learnt about TC's & T's, their flag is sacrosanct.



Richard

newscoop


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Message Posted:
03/06/2011 21:24

Sorry to dissapoint you Zoots/Pikey/Campbell, I'm the type of man who tries to be objective and looks at both sides of any story.



Next you'll say that Mladic was set up.



But then he is an ortho and can do no wrong.

Zoots


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Message Posted:
04/06/2011 00:21

Brinsley Msg 17: "From memory, was it not a Turkish army soldier how shot a drug induced youth who'd climbed a Turkish flagpole setting fire to it, was warned on three occasions to descend but didn't and consequently shot?!"



Dunno about your memory, Richard. Have you any credible evidence for your claims? The way the rest of the world saw it on live TV was a cold-blooded murder.

"What little you must have learnt about TC's & T's, their flag is sacrosanct."

Try that defence in a court of law rather than defending savages.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
04/06/2011 00:26

Msg 19

Interesting observation, but who are the 'savages' you're refering too? Please name them!



Richard

deputydawg


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Message Posted:
04/06/2011 00:46

Just about every soldier I served with who experienced civilian police custody in any country in Europe including Germany and Spain, and in particular many Middle East Countries were beaten in police cells. I once processed the transfer of a soldier from military close arrest to a police cell in a UK police station and when he appeared in Court the next morning he had two black eyes and a broken nose. Neither his legal representative nor the Court asked him how and when he had come by his injuries !

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 04:58

Once again a real and serious current issue, abuses by TC police of people in custody and the whole issue of the TC police not being under control of civilan authorites in the TRNC, has been sidelined by discussions of an event 15 years ago. Once again zoots uses this current news story to drag up events from the past and present those in a way that is biased and contains serious factual errors. It is akin to raising bloody sunday in response to nay news story about the UK civilian or military forces. The most blatant 'untruth' from zoots in this case is the claim that the responsible state parties are 'unaswerable' for thier acts. In fact the case of this death was heard by the ECHR who ruled on the matter. Still when you perpetrate the lie that the ECHR does not cover non citizens in the TRNC, then of course ignoring this reality becomes a necessity. The ECHR judgment on this death can be found here and is a better source of information than zoots' [cont]

erolz


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Message Posted:
04/06/2011 05:07

explotation of this event to persue his own ongoing agenda.

http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view.asp?action=html&documentId=837054&portal=hbkm&source=externalbydocnumber&table=F69A27FD8FB86142BF01C1166DEA398649



additional info. UN 6 monthly report on UNICYP for the period concerned here

http://www.un.int/cyprus/s19961016.htm

copy of letter by TRNC representative to UH concerning the events here

http://www.mfa.gov.tr/letter-dated-13-august-1996-from-mr_-osman-ertug_-trnc-representative-in-new-york-addressed-to-the-un-secretary-general.en.mfa



Zoots' exploitation of these events is in my view as blatant as it is intetntfully distorting.