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hawkeye
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Message Posted: 04/06/2011 23:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 106 in Discussion |
| Does anyone have any news about Mr Denktash? |
Zoots
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Message Posted: 04/06/2011 23:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 106 in Discussion |
| A round, shiny old man with delusions of importance who isolated TCs from the outside world for decades. Recently had further health problems - but noticeably Turkey no longer flies him over to his Motherland for medical treatment. That's pretty much the latest update. |
vonny
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 106 in Discussion |
| why would turkey need to fly him over to the motherland when he's in a first class hospital here? Hawkeye,as far as i know,mr denktas is doing well |
Zoots
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 00:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 106 in Discussion |
| vonny, First class hospital with no criteria may be a moot point. The fact is Turkey wants nothing to do with Denktas. He represents a bygone age they are trying to distance themselves from. |
vonny
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 00:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 106 in Discussion |
| Sorry, but thats a load of bull crap. |
Zoots
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 00:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 106 in Discussion |
| Are you a Denktas supporter, FFS? |
vonny
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 00:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 106 in Discussion |
| FFS? I do admire mr denktas, all his life he's fought for the turkish cypriots.but its pointless arguing with you ,you have to be a tc to understand that and at the moment im too tired |
Stonehousepub
Joined: 21/05/2009 Posts: 755
Message Posted: 05/06/2011 01:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 106 in Discussion |
| Zoots, Do not comment on what you do not know... Turkey sent an air ambulance immediately, it has been on stand buy at the YDU University Hospital from day one ready to fly Rauf Denktas to Ankara if required. On two occasions teams of six specialist consultants have also been flown over from Ankara by private jet to assess Mr Denktas's condition. He has also had hospital visits from all the past and present heads of the Turkish army... I understand that being Greek can sometimes be fustrating for you, but in future please get your facts right before you post your usual shite on this forum.. |
Turtle
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 01:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 106 in Discussion |
| Continue to get well Mr Denktas,.. the majority wish you good health but lets just ignore the minority who are bitter and twisted. |
YFred
Joined: 06/05/2009 Posts: 1471
Message Posted: 05/06/2011 01:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 106 in Discussion |
| Vonny, Dengtash looked after his family all his life meaning his real blood relatives and TMT/UBP. When it came to 74, he distributed the Greek Cypriot lands to all his relatives. To those who had land, he gave very little and took all their rights to their property in the south. Those who saw through his plans, did not do esdeger, which means now they can get some compensation and their land back from the south eventually. But for you to say he looked after the interests of the Turkish Cypriots is really a little far fetched. Don't get me wrong, not everything in the RoC is sweet and roses, they suffered the same fate under their leadership with EOKA making the most gains. Let's no longer delude ourselves that any of these people on either side had the best interest of their respective populations. |
DutchCrusader
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 07:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 106 in Discussion |
| @ msg 8, stonehousepub: (...) I understand that being Greek can sometimes be fustrating for you (...) ▶ Before the "banned member for life, Zoots" accuses you of a lie (telling them is his prerogative): he's a descendant of a Scot and a Greek speaking Cypriot - which explains a lot, doesn't it? @ msg 10, YFred: (...) Those who saw through his plans (...) ▶ How many times did the stupid Cypriot Turks vote the founding President of the TRNC, H.E. Rauf R. Denktash, back in office? Even someone living in London should now the answer. |
iceman
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 08:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 106 in Discussion |
| Bravo re Fredo!! @dutch How many years have you been in Cyprus and how many elections have you observed here to know HOW Denktas was voted back in office? We have seen way too may rigged elections in the past!! Stick to your maps and your walking tours and stop acting as if you know recent history of Cyprus!! |
DutchCrusader
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 08:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 106 in Discussion |
| @ msg 12, iceman: (...) How many years have you been in Cyprus (1) and how many elections have you observed here (2) to know HOW Denktas was voted back in office (3)? We have seen way too may rigged elections (4) in the past!! (...) ▶ (1) : Seven years plus. (2) : Two (Mr. Talat and Mr. Eroğlu) - also "rigged elections"?. (3) : Some people do read a lot. (4) : I know we wouldn't vote for the same political party if voting for both of us were possible. And in our personal contacts you have made your opinion about Turkey and the (future of) TRNC clear enough in the past years. (...) Stick to your maps and your walking tours and stop acting as if you know recent history of Cyprus!! (...) ▶ Not a very strong point, Mustafa. |
Ozankoyman
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 09:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 106 in Discussion |
| zoots, you are full of bull---t. just enjoy yourself in your part of the island and look at your home affairs. Leave our President alone!!!!!!!!!!!! |
hawkeye
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 09:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 106 in Discussion |
| thnaks for the update, our friend here in Uk was asking, He is a Turkish Cypriot but could not find out before his retunr to UK. |
wallysend
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 10:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 106 in Discussion |
| sorry to say but has mr Denktash died , yesterday heard a roumour and theors something on the news this morning but not sure what their saying |
nurseawful
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 10:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 106 in Discussion |
| I can't find anything on the internet to backup what you are saying wallysend! Maybe not a good idea to post 'rumours' or things on the news when you don't know what they are saying! Chris |
Turtle
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 12:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 106 in Discussion |
| I was over there last week and the TC,s I spoke to were saying he was poorly but making good progress. Lets not forget he is nealy 90 and his progress will be slower. |
kibrisvisitor
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 12:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 106 in Discussion |
| @ Iceman Bravo Mustafa DutchCrusader " Stick to your maps and your walking tours and stop acting as if you know recent history of Cyprus!! " |
kibrisvisitor
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 12:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 106 in Discussion |
| wallysend Message 16 NO REPORTS ON BRT LIVE RAIDIO NO REPORTS ON INTERNET PLEASE PROVIDE 100% LINK/ source to your information. |
Zoots
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 13:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 106 in Discussion |
| ozankoyman: "zoots, you are full of bull---t. just enjoy yourself in your part of the island and look at your home affairs. Leave our President alone!!!!!!!!!!!!" My part of the island? That would be the north - along with my support for all the decent TCs who live there. And for that matter, every decent person anywhere on the island. Seems you're another assumption merchant. I've spent years seeing off people like you. It's become something of a hobby. |
mmmmmm
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 13:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 106 in Discussion |
| re 13 DC 'Rigged elections' you are on REAL dodgy ground, here - the point is strong and well made.. 'Citizenships' were handed out 'willy nilly' to non TCs.. |
Zoots
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 13:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 106 in Discussion |
| stonehousepub wrote: "Do not comment on what you do not know... Turkey sent an air ambulance immediately, it has been on stand buy at the YDU University Hospital from day one ready to fly Rauf Denktas to Ankara if required." Read my post and you'll see what I said was I said Turkey no longer flies this old stager to his Motherland. As significant a political issue as the many huge political mistakes Denktas made - such as allowing the sale of seized GC property. So it appears I know more about interpretation than you do "I understand that being Greek can sometimes be fustrating for you, but in future please get your facts right before you post your usual shite on this forum.." In your own words, do not comment on what you do not know. Last week I was Armenian, this week I'm Greek. Is this what paranoia does to some people? The people on the forum who know me must be having a good chuckle! |
Zoots
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 13:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 106 in Discussion |
| Msg 9: "Continue to get well Mr Denktas,.. the majority wish you good health but lets just ignore the minority who are bitter and twisted." Rauf seems to be getting the Turtle's head. |
hawkeye
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 13:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 106 in Discussion |
| All I did was ask a simple question. I think some of you must have nothing better to do than bitch at each other. Sorry but here's another person who will feel that I can no longer post on here.......... |
Troodo
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 13:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 106 in Discussion |
| In your own words, do not comment on what you do not know. Zoots, I wish you would follow your own advice, then we would not be subjected to your continual drivel. |
nurseawful
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 13:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 106 in Discussion |
| hawkeye, Don't let the minority on here put you off posting. The majority are good people and willing to share information. Chris |
DutchCrusader
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 13:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 106 in Discussion |
| @ mag 22, 6xm: Well, if I were a Cypriot Turk I wouldn't be pleased with > your < (political) support. Sat-TV etc is another matter of course... |
Zoots
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 13:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 106 in Discussion |
| Don't go hawkeye. Contribute in a meaningful way instead. |
YFred
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 13:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 106 in Discussion |
| Dutch my old man was one of those people who saw through his plans and did not do esdeger. There is plenty more people I know who did the same. What you don't realise is how much land has been stolen from the TCs by UBP when they created the esdeged system. As to riged ellections in the north that has been going on for decades, and that you were not aware of them? Oh dear me. |
kibrisvisitor
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 14:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 106 in Discussion |
| Back on topic is mr.D dead or alive ?? Message 16 of 30 in Discussion sorry to say but has mr Denktash died , yesterday heard a roumour and theors something on the news this morning but not sure what their saying . |
DutchCrusader
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 14:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 106 in Discussion |
| Back on topic. I'm proud to have met and interviewed H.E. Rauf R. Denktash, the founding President of TRNC. He's a kind and brave man, who led his people away from an attempt to mass-murder by criminal Greek speaking Cypriots. History, OK, but facts are and remain facts (plenty of books with visions from both sides) and the troubles were NOT started by Cypriot Turks. I wish Mr. Denktash a speedy and complete recovery! ▶ [ http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/060930_HD_en_Rauf_Denktash.JPG ]. |
yorgozlu
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 14:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 106 in Discussion |
| reh Fred,I owe you a beer for those comments.You can buy me 2,in return. |
hawkeye
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 14:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 106 in Discussion |
| so nobody is any the wiser then!!! |
yorgozlu
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 14:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 106 in Discussion |
| http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/popup.php/cat/24/news/118440/PageName/gunun-sicak-gelismeleri this is the goggle translation from the paper; Founding President Rauf Denktas of the Near East Hospital treated every other day is better than the health status of the Founding of the President's son Serdar Denktash belirtildi.TAK answering questions from a reporter, her father wanted to read the newspaper today, said: "Did heWe do not know but wanted to be able to read, and we are preparing "he said. Denktash, the Founding President of the Republic, he added that a change in health status compared to yesterday. Near East Hospital yesterday in a statement, Rauf Denktash is open to consciousness, can talk, is on the left side weakness, self-soluyabildiği and was noted to be much better than the previous day. |
yorgozlu
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 14:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 106 in Discussion |
| What is for certain is that,new era is in horizon! |
YFred
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 14:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 106 in Discussion |
| He is improving and asked to be given a newspaper to read. Dengtash Junior was not sure whether he will be able to read . It sounds as though he is making slow recovery. What would really be interesting is if he makes a confession before his death to clear up a few things of the past. |
YFred
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 14:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 106 in Discussion |
| Yorgozlu I've just seen your comment. Have you read about the monster cald Hydra. If every time you buy me a beer, I owe you too, I'll be a very poor man. Now that is not a confession of a drinking problem. I am tea total. Although you would like what I put in my tea. It resides at the end of the alphabet. But it is purly on medicinal grounds you understand. |
hawkeye
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 15:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 106 in Discussion |
| well Mr Denktas has died!!!! his life story is being told on the Turkish radio. No link my friend has foound out here in Uk via as turkshi cypriot friend of his!!!! |
yorgozlu
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 17:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 106 in Discussion |
| hawkeye; You may well wish the man is dead(passed away) like I'm sure there plenty that do also,but Mr.Denktas is alive (like it or not) and improving. |
DutchCrusader
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 18:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 106 in Discussion |
| @ msg 40, yorgozlu: (...) Mr.Denktas is alive (like it or not) and improving. (...) ▶ Salahi, please, even if Mr. Denktash is not your favourite politician - show some respect for an old man in a critical condition - without him your parents and maybe you might have ended in a mass grave long time ago. |
yorgozlu
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 18:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 106 in Discussion |
| Hans; My comments re msg 40 are full of respect..........not to him maybe but to my dad at the very least. Please do not take my comments in a way that you had done. |
DutchCrusader
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 18:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 106 in Discussion |
| @ msg 42, yorgozlu: OK! |
cypgab
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 18:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 44 of 106 in Discussion |
| wallysend quote, message 16. sorry to say but has mr (s8c) Denktash (sic) died , yesterday heard a roumour (sic) and theors (sic)something on the news this morning but not sure what their (sic) saying (sic) A standard of posting we are getting used to. Badly written, ill informed, and with no idea of how this type of posting can offend. Get the facts right before going into print, especially about a man like this. Zoots - this is one time I would argue with your comments about Mr Denktas. North Cyprus owes a lot to him. |
cypgab
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 18:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 106 in Discussion |
| It's been pointed out to me that wallysend's first language is obviously not English. My apologies for the comments on your writing, but the 'ill informed and no idea ......) still stand. |
DutchCrusader
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 19:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 106 in Discussion |
| @ msg 44, cypgab: (...) (sic) (...) ▶ For the many illiterate posters on this board (not the readers who have given up and are just watching the suicide of C44) it may help to explain what "(sic)" means: "Quoted exactly as it stands in the original.". P.S. If you never were taught to speak your first language correctly - what do you expect here, cypgab..?! |
DutchCrusader
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 19:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 106 in Discussion |
| @ msg 45, cypgab: It's clear that I have to join your post re: wallysend. But for the rest - my post # 46 stands. |
Brinsley
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 19:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 106 in Discussion |
| Msg 46 Normally with a written spelling or grammatical error in the quoted transposed script! You should know, you're Petrus perfect! Richard |
Stonehousepub
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Message Posted: 05/06/2011 23:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 49 of 106 in Discussion |
| Zoots In your own words " The fact is Turkey wants nothing to do with Denktas " so how have you come to this conclusion ?? What evidence do you have ?? Do you have a personal vendetta against this man ?? I quite honestly do not care where you are from, but if you are going to continue posting on this forum do so with respect... |
bigOz
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 00:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 50 of 106 in Discussion |
| AGAIN; people are writing with their feelings rather than facts. I think I need to put the record straight once again - but with no disrespect to anyone, least of all to a dying man, BUT facts are facts. FACT-1; Either during 1964 or During 1974 when EOKA-B attacked the TCs Denktash chose top be safe in Turkey with all his family members. He was never there to protect anyone from a mass grave! Try Doktor Küçük, who was the true elected TC leader and the greatest fighter/influence for TC's existence and we might get somewhere! FACT-2; Denktash was never "elected" or "voted in" by the "stupid TCs" as Zoots ignorantly put it. NO OTHER CANDIDATE WAS ALLOWED BY TURKEY - who at the time, ruled over how the elections went in Cyprus! I remember many other candidates, withdrawing before the elections bowing to pressure from Turkey (and their military representatives on the island). DENKTASH NEVER WON AN ELECTİON FOR LEADERSHIP! HE WAS AUTOMATİCALLY ELECTED WITHOUT ANY VOTING! |
Stonehousepub
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 01:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 51 of 106 in Discussion |
| Bigoz So what's changed ?? Right or wrong he was the only person that could deal with the job in hand at the time... I do not see any reason why this great man should be disrespected by the like's of zoot's. This thread is not about the politics of Cyprus and is certainly not about Rauf Denktas's leadership status. It is about the progress of his health, so when ar******s like zoots twist and turn topics to disrespect a sick man........... I am lost for words, what a sad sad sad forum.... |
Ozankoyman
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 03:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 52 of 106 in Discussion |
| Zoots- if your part of the island is the North,what about all the TC owned lands in the South that are now parts of motorways or airports or simply erased from the face of the earth. I rest my case! Relax in peace in your part of the island! |
vonny
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 11:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 53 of 106 in Discussion |
| bigoz FACT-1; Either during 1964 or During 1974 when EOKA-B attacked the TCs Denktash chose top be safe in Turkey with all his family members. He was never there to protect anyone from a mass grave Denktas,who helped form TMT, Turkish Resistance Organization to resist EOKA's struggle to proclaim Enosis was prohibited to enter the island by Greek Cypriots between 1964-68,due to his involvement. However,in 1964, Denktas was smuggled in,from the mainland by boat.He planned to come back and help his people.But the Greek Cypriots caught and arrested him somewhere near Bogaz.To say that Denktas CHOSE to be safe in Turkey with his family members is simply not true |
Rottolover
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 11:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 54 of 106 in Discussion |
| This thread seems to be about Mr Denktas and his presidency, rather than the question of whether he still lives. It may be that bigOz is right and he was never really elected in the true sense of the word, but in my opinion it matters more how he governed than how he was 'elected'. Does his historical footprint contain any quality or value? I wouldn't presume to try to answer that, but I'd guess that there will be some who would. Perhaps some like Campbell. Unfortunately, Campbell's posts all seem to bear a very diaphanous relationship to the truth, for his preferred method of debate usually descends to spin and ridicule instead of sound argument, due to the totality of his arrogance and the size of his ego ("I've spent years seeing off people like you. It's become something of a hobby.") Campbell, why is it that you refuse to declare yourself? Do you have family or friends who are Armenian/Greek/Cypriot? Last week I was Armenian, this week I'm Greek |
Zoots
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 12:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 55 of 106 in Discussion |
| Rottolover, From my experience it tends to racists and bigots who base their opinions on someone's race. And considering you appear to have searched far and wide for a woman who would accept you, I'm very surprised. Have you ever thought I might be a Maronite? ;) |
Rottolover
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 13:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 106 in Discussion |
| Oh Campbell, ridicule and spin yet again? Campbell, I'm fairly sure you understand the implication behind a question of your background, but perhaps not. You see, when someone has family or friends of a certain religious, racial, ethnic or cultural persuasion, it burdens their opinions with the weight of one side of a particular bias. This becomes quite evident when articles or posts by the same person continually contain no balance in facts, but rather a spin towards that one-sided bias. The degeneration of that poster's messages into ridicule and insult is almost a given. As can be seen by your posts to date.... |
Stonehousepub
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 15:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 106 in Discussion |
| Zoots Will you answer my questions put to you in msg 49... |
Zoots
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 20:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 58 of 106 in Discussion |
| Rottenlover msg 56: " I'm fairly sure you understand the implication behind a question of your background, but perhaps not." Actually, you are completely wrong. When people preface their thoughts, answers or questions with the other person's ethnic background then they are instantly switching off from what that person is saying. So, in simple terms: Act 1, Scene 1: "Zoots" warns on TRNC forums not to buy GC property. Suggests the regime is corrupt and people will be ripped off. Also warns about paying anything to Gary Robb. Act 1, Scene 2: "Zoots" is called a "GC stooge" and is hounded off the boards by geriatric ranters. Nobody says stuff like that here! Act 2, Scene 1: Amaranta shocker. Act 2, Scene 2 Panic on the TRNC forums. Act 2, Scene 3: The Orams ruling. Act 2, Scene 4: Panic on the TRNC forums. Act 3, Scene 1: Memorandums shocker. Act 3, Scene 2: panic on the TRNC forums. I was right every time. Maybe you should have listened. |
Zoots
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 21:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 59 of 106 in Discussion |
| Stonehousepub, The evidence I have that Turkey does not want anything to do with Denktas is that: 1. They kicked him out of power. 2. They have not taken him to Turkey for treatment - as they always did before. 3. He has contributed to a critical shortage of sheftali in the north that is possibly irreversible. |
Pugwash
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 21:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 60 of 106 in Discussion |
| Zoots you are pathetic. If anyone could be bothered to go through them one by one all your points are just rubbish, for Act 1 to Act 3 read RoC as well, your only motive is to spread dissent and distrust not to help or inform, in that respect at least 6xm's has some credibility and decency, you do not. It is about time the authorities here took you in custody...........for your own protection of course............however I understand you are used to that in the UK. |
Rottolover
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 21:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 61 of 106 in Discussion |
| Campbell, we've been over this so many times now, and I really wonder if you're ever going to be struck by the concept of logic, but I'll try once more: The major problem you have, Campbell, apart from a dreadful predilection for spin and ridicule, is a total lack of any semblance of balance. All...every one... of your arguments is pointed in only one direction. Can you finally understand what I'm trying to shove into your thought process? No one, I believe, certainly not I, would dream of suggesting things are sweet and dandy in the TRNC. But you fail - in every case - to concede that things are just as bad in the Rest of Cyprus as well! And as I've also said before, the reason for such imbalance is almost always due to the emotive bias a person has because of who and what his family and friends are...it's a simple fact of life. |
Zoots
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 21:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 62 of 106 in Discussion |
| Puggers, I can only guess you were one of those who chose to ignore the warnings. Don't take out your anger on people who gave fair warning. As for MM I've never met the chap but feel sure we sing from EXACTLY the same songsheet. He's just a bit more diplomatic than I am. Erolz, when he's not being Mr Angry, is another whose views I share in some areas. As for your comments about the "authorities" taking me into custody, so we know you are an enemy of free speech and therefore an enemy of Cyprus. You may support YouTube bans and internet censorship but perhaps that's because you have grown to acquire a taste for the old Turkish truncheon. |
Zoots
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 21:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 64 of 106 in Discussion |
| Turtle: "the number of foreign tourists has increased considerably." You must be almost as big a clown as Eroglu. |
Pugwash
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 21:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 65 of 106 in Discussion |
| Zoots as usual you are wrong, I am very happy indeed here in all respects. I am sure you are very sad about that. I know all about your dubious journalistic history, it is easy to find, a "failed or should that be resigned special constable" that must look good on the CV along with other digressions. As for being an enemy of Cyprus, you really should take a long hard look in the mirror for that, there is no greater enemy than one as yourself that spreads rumours, lies, disinformation and delierate confusion. If I did not know better I would think you were a useless and ineffective RoC agent.................but there again.............Hallo Hallo........... |
Stonehousepub
Joined: 21/05/2009 Posts: 755
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 21:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 66 of 106 in Discussion |
| msg 59 Zoots Can I have your address ? Or if you have the balls I will email you mine and maybe we can have a little face to face chat.. You continue to disrespect and take the p*ss, very easy to do hiding behind a keyboard... I am personally offended by your tasteless comments towards our great leader, and will do everything in my power to track you down... and when I do boy you are going be shitting your little gavur ass !! |
Turtle
Joined: 28/05/2007 Posts: 2669
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 21:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 67 of 106 in Discussion |
| Just call at the "old police house" in Girne Stonehousepub,....Im sure you will catch him in one day |
Zoots
Joined: 05/02/2011 Posts: 669
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 21:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 68 of 106 in Discussion |
| Stonehouse, Just as well I didn't mention the kofte. Such loyalty from the Londrali is commendable. Reward him, we must. |
Zoots
Joined: 05/02/2011 Posts: 669
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 21:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 69 of 106 in Discussion |
| Pugwash, Trawling the depths because you are ineffectual in an argument. But while you're still around, let me get a picture of you standing in front of that unfinished coastal council estate you bought into. Sweet! |
GinaC
Joined: 26/11/2010 Posts: 372
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 70 of 106 in Discussion |
| :Just call at the "old police house" in Girne Stonehousepub,....Im sure you will catch him in one day: If I could work out how to do smilies I would. |
Turtle
Joined: 28/05/2007 Posts: 2669
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 71 of 106 in Discussion |
| Gina,.. try a colon then a closed bracket and smile smile smile |
Stonehousepub
Joined: 21/05/2009 Posts: 755
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 72 of 106 in Discussion |
| Zoots Look my friend I am not going to continue replying to your comments. Do you think this is some kind of a little game?? Just respond to msg 66... |
Zoots
Joined: 05/02/2011 Posts: 669
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 73 of 106 in Discussion |
| Erolz are you logged in as GinaC? Have a word with the TC policeman who keeps an eye on the place (works at HQ Girne) and the senior politician two doors down. Both good friends who (whisper it) don't like carpetbaggers. That's why Zoots has been around for so long and guess who is out on their elbow! |
Zoots
Joined: 05/02/2011 Posts: 669
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 74 of 106 in Discussion |
| Stonehouse, "I am personally offended by your tasteless comments towards our great leader, and will do everything in my power to track you down... and when I do boy you are going be shitting your little gavur ass !!" Matey, I come from a democracy where people freely criticise politicians and ex-politicians and comedians make a career out of it. Whereas you sound as if you come from Idi Amin's Uganda where attacking the "great leader" as you call him can get you the chop. Put down the Efes and listen to yourself for a minute. You sound like you come from some fly-blown, tinpot banana republic. Oh, hang on a minute... |
erolz
Joined: 17/11/2008 Posts: 3456
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 75 of 106 in Discussion |
| Zoots there is democracy and then there is plain common decency. To use a potential life ending medical condition experienced by a man in his 90's as an 'opportunity' to criticise the mans life may be compatible with the former but certainly is not with the later in my view. |
Rottolover
Joined: 21/06/2009 Posts: 519
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 76 of 106 in Discussion |
| Oh, hang on a minute, Campbell, would that be the same "fly-blown, tinpot banana republic" in which you've invested money and purchased a house? |
dippersgirl
Joined: 04/05/2010 Posts: 795
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 77 of 106 in Discussion |
| What a lot of ................................ somebody asks an ordinary question and it gets 74 mostly playground bickering replies. |
vonny
Joined: 25/06/2009 Posts: 476
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 78 of 106 in Discussion |
| Remember,this is cyprus 44 dippersgirl |
dippersgirl
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Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 79 of 106 in Discussion |
| Yes you're right, vonny. My life is very sheltered here in Dipkarpaz |
vonny
Joined: 25/06/2009 Posts: 476
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 80 of 106 in Discussion |
| yep.and im housebound at the moment but as soon as im back on my feet again,im out of here lol |
Pugwash
Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 1797
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 81 of 106 in Discussion |
| Zoots, for your pathetic little mind, I live in an individual, completed house with a kocan and I have no particular issues with the TRNC, apart from the obvious ones where most would like improvement, much like the RoC. |
Turtle
Joined: 28/05/2007 Posts: 2669
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 22:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 82 of 106 in Discussion |
| Msg73 Thats soooo funny. You are either a very important person or someone at high risk of something bad happening to you. Either way a top cop and a politician keeping guard i would love to see,...when you come back to the forum next time I would suggest a name like walter mitty maybe more fitting |
dizzycows
Joined: 12/05/2009 Posts: 2736
Message Posted: 06/06/2011 23:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 83 of 106 in Discussion |
| msg 82 ... thats so funny too, walter mitty.... lol |
Zoots
Joined: 05/02/2011 Posts: 669
Message Posted: 07/06/2011 00:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 84 of 106 in Discussion |
| Let's see some of you brave boys on CCTV causing a public threat in the TRNC. |
Stonehousepub
Joined: 21/05/2009 Posts: 755
Message Posted: 07/06/2011 01:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 85 of 106 in Discussion |
| Come on Zoots don't be a little girl... Are you scared of having a face to face ? It's so easy to attack. insult & twist behind the safety of the keyboard... Your not exactly very brave are you ? |
Zoots
Joined: 05/02/2011 Posts: 669
Message Posted: 07/06/2011 01:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 86 of 106 in Discussion |
| Stonehouse, Is it angst, my pet, or too much lager? |
YFred
Joined: 06/05/2009 Posts: 1471
Message Posted: 07/06/2011 15:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 87 of 106 in Discussion |
| Does anybody remember the little stunt Dengtash and the UBP pulled on to the Turkish Cypriots after 74. He offered 2% extra interest on the bank rates for Cyprus Lira. When people wanted to take out their money sometime later, they could only get it out as Turkish Lira at 32 to a Cyprus Lira when Cyprus Lira was 2500 Turkish Liras. They robbed thousands of people for all their savings. Dengtash helped the cypriots, yeah right. Pushed them into the well got the credit for saving them. Pull the other one, the middle one has bells on it. |
Brinsley
Joined: 04/04/2009 Posts: 6858
Message Posted: 07/06/2011 15:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 88 of 106 in Discussion |
| Msg 87 What on earth is a Cyprus Lira? Richard |
iceman
Joined: 15/08/2008 Posts: 724
Message Posted: 07/06/2011 16:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 90 of 106 in Discussion |
| forgot to say...it was "Lira" also for Greek speaking Cypriots |
Brinsley
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Message Posted: 07/06/2011 16:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 91 of 106 in Discussion |
| So what was the £ Cyprus exchange rate to the Turkish Lira in, say, 1975? Richard |
iceman
Joined: 15/08/2008 Posts: 724
Message Posted: 07/06/2011 16:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 92 of 106 in Discussion |
| official rate in north Cyprus for one Cyprus lira was 36 in 1975!!! In fact, official exchange rate for Cyprus Lira was 36 for many years after 1974!!! All savings of people was converted to Turkish lira from this rate...real value was in hundreds in 1975 thousands in later years!! Turkish Cypriots were robbed of their life savings... |
YFred
Joined: 06/05/2009 Posts: 1471
Message Posted: 08/06/2011 16:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 93 of 106 in Discussion |
| The trouble with some of the johny come latelys is that you have no idea what the TCs have been through. First under the dreaded RoC and then TRNC. You are only the latest victims of this set up, but certainly not the first. |
leprechaun
Joined: 07/06/2011 Posts: 24
Message Posted: 08/06/2011 16:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 94 of 106 in Discussion |
| You are only the latest victims of this set up, but certainly not the first. tamam nor the last but that does NOT lessen the problem . |
aragman
Joined: 10/06/2011 Posts: 3
Message Posted: 11/06/2011 12:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 95 of 106 in Discussion |
| I see stonehousepub is still a member. So the moderators are now condoning threats and bullying. Nice board we've got here. Where have the standards gone? |
kibrisisit
Joined: 07/06/2011 Posts: 9
Message Posted: 11/06/2011 17:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 96 of 106 in Discussion |
| Good question. A perfectly reasonable question that maybe a moderator would like to answer? |
yorgozlu
Joined: 16/06/2009 Posts: 4437
Message Posted: 11/06/2011 18:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 97 of 106 in Discussion |
| What 'threats and bullying'? One commented aginst other ones beleifs,who happens to be TRNC citizen,and 'he' retaliated.No different then any other TC would have done with same beleifs,against a 'foreigner'. |
erolz
Joined: 17/11/2008 Posts: 3456
Message Posted: 11/06/2011 18:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 98 of 106 in Discussion |
| A poster who joined on the 10/06/2011 with three posts asking about consistency of moderation on here being supported by a member who joined on the 07/06/2011 with 9 posts and accross multiple threads seems to me a little bit strange to be frank. Stomehousepub made an implied threat of violence and was not banned. Girderjack99, who joined on the 06/06/2011 made a direct threat of violence and also has not been banned, nor any of those that offered to 'help' with said threat of violence. If you want to discuss the consistency of moderation then by all means do so, though for such new users it seems a strange thing to start with. Yet you do not seem to offer any consistency yoursleves that I can see, but are targeting one indivdual. Calls for both of them to be banned, or neither would indicated a real interest in consistency. Calls for just one to be banned smacks of something else to me. |
Brinsley
Joined: 04/04/2009 Posts: 6858
Message Posted: 11/06/2011 18:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 99 of 106 in Discussion |
| Aragman Msg 95 I'm confused! Joined 11/6/2011, three posts, yet you make a statement, 'Where have the standards gone?'! What criteria can you assert this extraordinary remark having only just joined this forum?! Richard |
AlsancakJack
Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 11/06/2011 18:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 100 of 106 in Discussion |
| Any queries about the moderation of this board should be addressed to Forum Admin directly. Read the forum rules and more importantly understand them. The board seems to have attracted a few new members that obviously do not believe in reading the rules, let alone understanding them. |
Brinsley
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Message Posted: 11/06/2011 19:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 101 of 106 in Discussion |
| Msg 100 Not all like to 'run to teacher' and tell tales! Richard |
Turtle
Joined: 28/05/2007 Posts: 2669
Message Posted: 11/06/2011 19:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 102 of 106 in Discussion |
| I may show my ignorance of everything "IT" here,... but do the FA check IP addresses of all new members and can this check reveal banned members ? |
Scoty
Joined: 23/05/2010 Posts: 846
Message Posted: 11/06/2011 19:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 103 of 106 in Discussion |
| Mods are on now -but!!!! The post has big hits with more to come. |
Stonehousepub
Joined: 21/05/2009 Posts: 755
Message Posted: 11/06/2011 21:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 104 of 106 in Discussion |
| msg 95/96 Warm welcome to both of you.. |
Brinsley
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Message Posted: 11/06/2011 22:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 105 of 106 in Discussion |
| Msg 104 Rhetorical?! Richard |
nurseawful
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Message Posted: 12/06/2011 12:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 106 of 106 in Discussion |
| Has there been any updates on Mr. Denktas's health? Wishing him a speedy recovery. Chris p.s. Wonder if he will need a nurse when he gets home! |
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