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dandd3


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16/08/2011 23:16

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4 bitches 3 male rottwieler puppies for sale 1000tl each call on 05338717622 for more information. posting for a friend and hes not flexable on his prices so only post if you are interested thanks.



philbailey


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How old?

any papesr?( pedigree)

all jabs done?



Glorybee


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16/08/2011 23:28

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How can you charge such a price when there are all these unwanted dogs looking for a loving home?? Please go to KAR and help rehome one of their dogs.



dandd3


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there only 25 days old atm. The mother had got all her papers not surewhat papers the father has but he is a 79 kilo beast. People pay these prices becuase they are top guard dogs and i have been to kar henve the reson why i have 22 dogs all strays and injured.....



philbailey


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Ok thank you



maybe the moderators could change the heading



"pure breed"



to stop any confusion



Lilli



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Glorybee because they want designer dogs now to chain up, seen several huskys recently chained in this heat x All bought some from south side . I have a staffi and anyone seeing him (Turkish or Cyp s) run a mile as they think he is dangerous. He is a gentle giant. What chance will KAR ever have if they go and buy dogs rather than help one.Hows the one that turned up on you, that so sad x



MsGarnet


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17/08/2011 00:35

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seven more rottweillers - on an Island SINKING under the weight of feral, unwanted, abandoned dogs - beggars belief.........WHEN will the powers that be - make it illegal to breed one more dog........of ANY breed......



crazy


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Post deleted ,off topic .........simbas



BizziLizzi


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I do so agree with Lilli and MsGarnet - the breeding and importation* of any dogs should be forbidden until some control has been established over the stray problem. How anyone can even think of buying a dog when there are so many strays - and a lot of them beautiful cross breeds - needing a home quite escapes me.



And when the large fighting (and I believe some are actually bred for fighting) dogs are abandoned and breed with the existing strays we will have dangerous packs which will have to be shot.



* Pets could be excepted provided those importing them could prove that they are already family pets and they intend staying permanently in the country - but they must be spayed.



Who needs big guard dogs. A couple of small terriers make more noise and there is less chance of an innocent person or a child being injured.



My two warn me if anyone comes to the door - and they tell me whether it is a friend or stranger. So far I havent managed to teach them to answer the ph



BizziLizzi


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lilli



I am sure your staffi is everything you say - no doubt you have cared for him and trained him. But a few months ago one of that breed savaged a neighbours small mongrel, and I had to help administer first aid. It was not pleasant. It would certainly put me off that and other fighting breeds.



And yet another reason why responsible dog owners have to keep their pets under strict quarantine - at the expense of he owners social life (cant leave a dog indoors for more than four hours) and makes walking them a danger rather than a pleasure



simbas



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Simbas



moxie


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it wont be long before they have dog fighting here......lots of strays to practice on !!! very disturbing :(



swyflot


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Another irresponsible "breeder", brains and dangerous springs to mind !!



Tango1


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When will you ever learn you GREEDY, CRUEL breeders. Don't do it please. On top of which you are misleading the public. You say the female has all her papers (what papers BTW) but not sure about the male. To be be a genuine pedigree for sale you should be in a position for both male and female to be registered with a Kennel Club, showig the provinence, going back 4 generations (I think) Not some bit of paper from a breeder or pet shop.



T1



dandd3


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As i said i am posting for a friend who is english and loves animals. He does not chain or tie up his dgos he bought 5 donums just for his dogs to raom and run around in. He doesnt breed them to fight he breeds them trians them and then sells them for guard dogs not fighting dogs. So if you dont like it then dont post as i said at the beginin only post if you are interested .............



blade


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Breeding and importation should be banned?

Greedy cruel breeders.?

Not everyone wants a rescue dog with issues, your starting to sound like the old Raj, for christ sake live and let live.

If your dog is a pure breed you can now register it with the Cyprus Kennel club if that helps?



I have two dogs now, but i did have three. All pedigree one purchased and two rescued, my boy who died recently ,a rescue cost me 1000's in medical care so before you judge pedigree dogs owners think.

We don't all have the designer dog need, or are cruel greedy breeders! Maybe we just love our breed?

Everyone to their own.



BizziLizzi


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I am frequently (on two occasions by people who claimed to have bred the type in the UK) if one of my dogs is a pedigree. I have no idea - he was dumped at the roadside in a cardboard box. All I know is he is a handsome animal with the traits of the breed and faithful and affectionate friend , reasonably obedient. I love him as much, but no no more than, than his adopted sister who is unmistakeably a" Cyprus terrier."





I dont think the main object of this thread is to object to pedigrees as such,* but the breeding of the more aggressive strains. You sound like a caring owner,Blade, would you breed from your dogs not knowing whether the pups would go to a good home.



*although it seems so unnecessary to import them I have seen Boxers, Labradors, Alsations , Dalmations,

wandering in seach of a good home



As for "live and let live" . That is exactly what I want. The right to look after and excercise smaller dogs, without fear of attack from aggressive dogs or pa



natalie


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'Sells for guard dogs' is that not enough warning!!! We have all seen 'guard' dogs here and how they are chained and suffer. No more need be said.



climakool


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17/08/2011 22:45

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I cant even comment coz it would be a waste of time - says it all really? :(



MsGarnet


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17/08/2011 23:23

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How much of a need - really - is there, for Guard dogs? Not much, I'd say......



dandd3


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a dog is only agresive if you abuse it or train it to be agresive my friends rottwilers are the most friendly dogs ever they love children love to play with everyone. If you train a dog to be friendly and show them love they will beloveing ......



climakool


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i agree with what u r saying about aggressive dogs - i have 2 staffs and they are as stupid as ever but can you not understand why people get angry - so many unwanted dogs - and u post advertising dogs for sale at 1000tl?



BizziLizzi


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Any animal can be aggressive under certain provocation - including dogs and humans! Particularly if they are ill, frightened, feel threatened or are protecting their young.



Guard dogs should be left to the Police and other professional trained handlers. I doubt if there are many in North Cyprus. And only used in certain circumstances, eg in enclosed premises with warnings or on leads. Even then it is not fair to the dog as so many films show they can be shot, stabbed or poisoned. We already have a poisening problem here, the introduction of more potentially dangerous dogs will only serve to increase the problem.



Anyone wanting a pet for company or even to give warning of intruders should chose a smaller dog of a gentler breed. A small terrier can snap if it is teased - but most people can pick up a terrier by the scruff and prize its jaws open if necessary. Anyone who can do that with a Rottwiler doesnt need protection.



InTheDogHouse



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18/08/2011 05:37

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Msg23

As you said, any animal can be aggressive.

IMO, smaller dogs often show more signs of aggression but this is rarely reported. A well balanced dog of a powerful breed is not likely to feel threatened in the same situation that could cause a smaller dog to bite.



Larger dogs obviously have the capability to cause more damage and this is where the bad rep comes from.

A Rottweiler was bred to protect. A Jack Russell was bred to kill.



I (like many others posting on this topic) know nothing about the sire and dam of this litter. I can however comment on my own Rottweiler and say she is the sweetest dog I have ever known. Anybody who has met Kira will agree.



Not all Rottweilers are nasty and not all smaller dogs are friendly.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2254479/Sausage-dogs-are-the-most-aggressive-dogs.html



BTW - I don't agree with unregistered 'back yard' breeding which is why my dog, despite a very good pedigree, has been spayed.



blade


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I own a large dog. She is a pedigree and we brought her here with us years ago. I am not the dump a dog type, so wouldn't leave part of my family behind.

I have her well trained, she is a loyal loving friend and excellent guard dog. If you come to my house she will be in your face, but then she will also sit by my side when told.

Last year at the KAR dog show she spent much time socialising with two Dobermans, neither of which she had met before. Three large dogs, two Dobermans and a Giant Schnauzer getting along fine, well behaved and well trained. Embassadors for their breeds.

Big dog owners do take more time to train as they are always the ones who get the blame if something happens.



I have no issues between large and small dogs, its all about how well people train their dogs. Doesn't matter if it is a pedigree or not, more people need to spend time training their dog!



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