solution on cyprus is getting closer

Lionokan



Joined: 11/03/2011
Posts: 90

Message Posted:
15/10/2011 10:41

Hristoyyas and Eroglu are getting more close to each other towards the solution of Cyprus problem

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
15/10/2011 12:02

Where do you get that idea from?

martinD41


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Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
15/10/2011 12:04

Wikileaks............

andre514


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Posts: 763

Message Posted:
15/10/2011 20:57

cannot comment on solving it,

but can cristofias and eroglu agree

on what exactly is the cyprus problem?



now that would be progress!

Ed1957


Joined: 03/09/2011
Posts: 377

Message Posted:
15/10/2011 23:11

Do thry have a joint bank account?

andrew4232



Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 1543

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 00:28

yes it must be the communist interest that they have in common

LaptaGeezer


Joined: 01/06/2010
Posts: 407

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 02:19

I will make a prediction.... the money that will become available from the resources to be found around the island, estimated to be possibly around the £40billion mark... will be enough to get the 2 sides together and in agreement. No government is going to want to pass that by, how can you skim the cream off the top if you are not in charge at the time it is all flowing.... mark my words!!

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 07:38

I'll believe it when I see it!

Geoff

Famagusta City

aruzhan


Joined: 11/03/2011
Posts: 146

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 11:47

Who and when is going to solve the Cyprus propblem?



It is very easy but not Cypriots, Americans or even Russians can solve it!

I belive this is the best idea of all !



It will happen in 2020 and only with the help of ALIENS.



Do you want to know the details ?



A show in Famagusta telling about it - on the 18 , 21, 22 , 25 , 28 and 29 of October.



0533 866 27 04.



I think this idea is more realistic than Cyprus negotiations.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 12:33

The OP doesn't tell us what the solution is ! ;)



Seriously, the talks continue and it was agreed that neither side would issue statements / leak / discuss the details ..

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 12:54

It was in yesterdays Kıbrıs that Downer has stated "Progress has been made (between the two leaders". This was apparently after they discussed the Economy, EU, Internal security, Land ownership, Administration and Power sharing on Thursday.

Eroğlu stated that, where they had a bottleneck on couple of issues in the previous meeting, they have instructed their advisers / experts to get together and solve - he said, due to restrictions in reporting what has been discussed, he could not add anything further.

Apparently, Hristofyas said, "I will not say that we have come to an agreement with the Turkish Cypriots, BUT we are extremely close to agreeing on the subject of the National Congress.."

martinD41


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Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 12:58

So we are back to "Mushroom Syndrome" again......

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 13:04

So we are back to "Mushroom Syndrome" again......









"we"???????????????



"you" gave our island back to US in 1960,remember?

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 13:07

Re Msg 13: Yes. Do you still want it??

Geoff

martinD41


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Message Posted:
16/10/2011 13:08

I don't remember Guernsey having a say in the matter,perhaps I should have said "You are back to Mushroom Syndrome" again ,,, that does sound more like it ..

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 13:13

msg 14

a tricky question!

Unfortunatelly,turkey had taken over accupying where "you" had left off..........along with many other,inc. "you".



remember Eredogan's speech!

"we will never give back guzelyurt to greeks"!!!!!!!!!! at last so called freedom and peace celebrations.



He is also under the same impression as "you"

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 13:56

message 10 mark:



you rightly remind us it is "talks" that are still taking place,

with the object of an agreement on reunification of cyprus



yet the word "solution" crops up repeatedly in cyprus 44

but can only ever mean different things to each community



for example, for a majority of greek and turkish cypriot

migrants, it may well include a safe and secure return to the

homes they occupied until july 1974



to the people of north cyprus, however they are defined,

it has a lot to do with economic growth, international

acceptance and the undying guarantee of turkey's army



I would suggest that for jane and joe ex-pat the choice would

be to stump up a bit of compo: and see land values jump



patronising?



perhaps, but not half as patronising as bigging up the idea of a

"solution" that sidesteps the question of losers and gainers in

any future settlement

Geoff


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Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 13:57

Re Msg 16: Good answer Yorgozlu.

Geoff

yrret


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Posts: 761

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 15:26

Yorg #16



remember Eredogan's speech!

"we will never give back guzelyurt to greeks"!!!!!!!!!!



Didn't G H W Bush also say 'read my lips, no new taxes'?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 15:46

Compromise is the art of Gentlemen!



A multi million bonanza of Hydrocarbon goodies may colour their thinking.



Stop playing games. Give peace a chance.



wynyardman

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 16:21

wyn:



most people would like to see a sensible compromise on the cyprus question,

and this time around it is elected cypriots alone trying to resolve their conflicting

requirements, but there is not a great deal of progess after three years' trying



without wanting to sound totally pessimistic, the gc's voted down the gift of a

(measure of) compensation, and (some) territory in 2006 now said to be off

the table, but understandably still bang on about reclaiming former properties

by ejecting post-1974 settlers: so what is it there is to actually discuss?



if huge gas reserves are found near cyprus this could usher in peace and

prosperity for one and all,

but on past form the more likely outcome is bitter squabbling over the spoils



some gc supporters are quick to point out various problems turkey is facing

over cyprus, few are willing to grapple with its mirror-image...under stress,

governments of near-east countries tend to be less compromising not more

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 16:31

Andre,



Do not be deluded.



Is the jingle in their pockets, worth the Jangle in their heads"



Its Greeks we are talking about. They cannot afford their round at the bar.



I see an amicable solution. I personally think the Turks have played a blinder!



Just my opinion, thats all.



wynyardman

andre514


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Posts: 763

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 17:02

wyn old chap,



in line three message 20 you refer to "playing games"

are you sure you are are not doing just that?



dunno about rounds at the bar

....but the (greek) cypriots desperately need a lifeline

to prop up their finances



if gas does just that, assuming they get away with it,

why should they then decide to compromise?

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 17:36

I could not agree more with Msg 21. If they find gas/oil in huge quantities (which seems likely), together with TRNC's water pipeline project (Turkey>TRNC) which will be able to supply the whole island, there will be every encouragement to do a re-unification deal. and everyone here (TCs, GCs, Brits, etc ) will be laughing all the way.

Geoff

Famagusta City.

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 17:44

Andre, Msg 23,



Are you not saying precisely what I was saying in posting 22.



And what is this "Old Chap"?



More crap?



At least it rhymes.



wynyardman

martinD41


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Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 18:52

msg 24 I well remember when a huge "Natural Gas" field was found in the North Sea, I think in the mid 70's ,We ,( the UK )were promised" Natural Gas for Decades at Ludicrously Low prices", Guess what ?..Most of it was exported , the UK public consumers gained nothing.. except a free set of gas rings..

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 19:01

Wyn "old chap",nice to see that you have come around to my way of thinking,



Paul.

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 19:05

msg 19



Turkey is claiming this part of island because they 'shed' blood......................f**k me,if that is a case I must have a claim in at least half the pups and night clubs in kent.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 19:05

re 21 andre514



>>most people would like to see a sensible compromise on the cyprus question,

and this time around *it is elected cypriots alone trying to resolve their conflicting

requirements*<<



Hmmm, Andre ... you KNOW that the talks are supposed to lead up to a referendum - the question(s) on it [referendum] being hammered out - if the elected representatives can agree..

twaddle


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Posts: 245

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 19:20

Message 28.

Excellent Yorg !

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 19:22

Newlad,



Good to hear from you.



Still yesterdays man!



wyn

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 475

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 19:26

Don't be misled by politician's (including Downer's) unwarranted optimism. It's part of their normal make up.

I doubt there is any sudden rapprochement in the reintegration talks. The GC's still want Maras, Famagusta and Guzelyurt "returned" to them (not to say Kyrenia) ! As Erdogan said. If they wanted those they should not have said no to the Annan Plan in which they were included.



Other "red lines" to be overcome ?. The Turkish Protection Force to leave ! Yeah right ! maybe to be replaced by EOKA C..... Turkish "settlers, or immigrants or seasonal workers, depending on your point of view, to be returned to Turkey. I can just see Erdogan agreeing to that !

Hydrocarbon deposits, water pipelines, electric grids ?, Have not even entered the radar of these talks and are so far in the future that any discussions on those depend on the success of the talks themselves.



At the end of the day, referendums will be held,the people decide and it's anyone's guess as to the results of thos

cinders


Joined: 08/10/2011
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 19:51

Dream on the best solution is the present status quo.

MoonageDaydre


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Posts: 70

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 21:19

Come on Cinders you cannot be serious! "The best solution is the present status quo," the best solution for Greek Cypriot hotel owners on poor stretches of coastline in the south maybe! What about the long suffering Turkish Cypriots? The 'non-solution solution' so beloved of EDEK and DIKO supporters in the South is no damn good to them at all. That is what so many have emigrated, and when they come back to the TRNC they feel they are strangers in their own land due to the scale of immigration from Anatolia over the last couple of decades.

Turkish Cypriots voted for a just solution in 2004, unfortunately the promises of EU countries about direct trade and flights never materialised.

There are only two realistic options, a bi-zonal bi-communal federal Cyprus, or permanent partition. If its to be the latter, the best the TRNC could hope for is a Kosova or Taiwan type recognition not a full one. Ban Ki Moon is rightly making it clear that this is the last chance for an agreemen

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 21:24

Re mess 33,



Cinders,you will never go to the ball,



Paul.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 22:11

re 32 Geejay



Whist Mr E may have a point re the GC no to Annan.. they were told that their Mr P would get them a better deal "under EU norms of HR" ... and for YEARS they had only heard "Recognise the TRNC" - not realising that their was a new chapter in TC political life.. they didn't believe Mr D was 'finished'



Mr E was quite happy to recommend acceptance of a plan to 'return' settlers, the 'return' of Morphou, Varosha, etc., coming under the GC 'sector' of the new federated state THEN... so what's changed, now ?

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 475

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 00:26

6m's.... I haven't the slightest idea what you're posting is about. Your shorthand is a mystery to me. Please be more explicit and write in the Queen's English. Words of one syllable would also assist !!



I'll make one guess though. That Mr. E is Erdogan, who has recently adamantly declared that Famagusta etc. will not be given over to the Greek Cypriots. Or maybe you mean Eroglu who actually has said very little, in accordance with the bi-communal agreement on media statements. If you however you do (mean Eroglu), he won't go against Turkey's wishes ! 'He who pays the piper calls the tune'.

No matter what. Turkey's investment in and funding of the TRNC is THE determining factor in the north's position, at least in the short and medium term. And no politician here looks beyond that for their own benefit.

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 00:39

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PhilUK


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Posts: 236

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 01:49

I like it the way it is,

It keeps the scroats out,

Well, some of them anyway.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 08:19

re 37 Geejay



>>6m's.... I haven't the slightest idea what you're posting is about. Your shorthand is a mystery to me. Please be more explicit and write in the Queen's English. Words of one syllable would also assist !! <<



As you were quoting Mr E (as in Erdogan) I thought you'd made the 'jump'... my bad..



Mr P - in case you can't figure it - is the former President of the 'rump' RoC - Mr Papadopoulos - who lied to his people...



Mr D = Denktash was guilty of the same thing - but was effectively 'finished' by the Annan vote - but the GCs didn't believe that..



The MAIN reasons Annan failed... The GCs believed their President would get 'em a 'better deal' ( "under [sic] EU norms of Human Rights" ) AND that posters of Denktash were posted everywhere by the No campaign ... with ( basically) "would you trust this man to share power with?" [ it would be Talat, of course.. ]



Lastly, the current 'rump' RoC President ( Mr C ) told his party to vote No..saying it meant 'yes

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 08:26

(cont)



Mr E strongly suggested to the TCs and TC settlers to vote YES and they did... now here we are 7 years later ..



NOW, he surely saying the opposite ( he was effectively saying vote YES to kiss good-bye to Varosha/ Marash and Morphou/Guzelyurt and the notion of 'TRNC' in 2004 -





He is interfering, at a time when this is a chance for Cypriots to try to find a deal..



So what changed SO dramatically, to cause Mr E to 'do a 180' ?

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 11:45

Hi 6m



"So what changed SO dramatically, to cause Mr E to 'do a 180' ?"



Who knows? We don't know the mind of Erdogan.



I expect though that he has grown considerably in confidence since 2004 and so has Turkey. He is now quite comfortable in throwing his weight around and perhaps he sees more at stake in Cyprus with the talk of gas/oil etc.

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 12:09

message 29:



"elected representatives" are arguing the toss,

as opposed to a constitution, suggested by the un/guarantors

or pseudo-cypriots like you and me



and a referendum endorsement? ...of course if it gets that far

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 13:49

another curious thing, mark

....are various off the cuff references by the south to the (failed) 1960-constitution



from their point of view, as well as the fact they "represent" cyprus internationally,

suggests a return to that is everything they require



so the talks if only to them, are really about getting the turkish army off the island



wouldn't you agree?

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 14:19

re 44



Depends on which GC you talk to..



The youth of Cyprus are actually more likely to be hard-line ... :(

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 20:01

Lets get down to brass tacks here guys.The E.U. is a christian club that wil never allow the membership of such a large muslim country.Turkeys European minister Egemen Bagis feels like Turkey is being discriminated against,because of this.



Bagis also belives that if some of the current members were subjected to similar scrutiny.Their report cards,wouldnt be half as good as Turkeys,



Paul.

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 20:21

msge 46



"Their report cards,wouldnt be half as good as Turkeys".



I expect this to be true Paul. Just look at Bulgaria and Romanias record on crime. Apparently Sofia is run by the mafia.



In days gone by most countries on the rise and with Turkeys growing confidence would look to be expanding their territory. Thankfully the EU allows Turkey an outlet to trade and win economically but with every passing day the EU is less likely to be able to influence Turkey politically.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 20:28

I just wonder if the GC President isn't stirring up publicity to take peoples mind off calling for his resignation over the explosion scandal. Just a thought.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 20:29

Re mess 47,



Hi Mark,



"Apparently Sofia is run by the mafia"

So is East Hull matey,lol,



Paul.

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 20:41

msge 49



"So is East Hull matey,lol"



By the way Paul can you get me a couple of AK47's and two bazookas. Usual shipment terms if possible. Sent from Hull post office.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 20:56

Mums the word Mark,



Back on topic.Would the posters on here agree that most Turks are convinced that the E.U. will never embrace their country,anyway.With Turkey now having a booming economy,secular democracy,and new regional clout.Could it be true that the locals could be saying who needs Europe anyway.



Egemen Bagis recently, sarcastically invited the E.U. to come and join Turkey.As i see it,the only chance would be if a deal was brokered over the hydrocarbons in the med,



Paul.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 22:39

Paul



'Would the posters on here agree that most Turks are convinced that the E.U. will never embrace their country,anyway.With Turkey now having a booming economy,secular democracy,and new regional clout.Could it be true that the locals could be saying who needs Europe anyway.'







try talking to actual individual joe the public,you'd soon realise otherwise.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 23:26

Hi Yorg,



Exactly why i posted,please expand.As a person that doesnt live out there i really value your input on such matters,



Paul.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 09:39

Paul



The strength of turkish economy maybe strong but the majorıty of the public (exc.Istanbul,Ankara,Izmır...) are still on the run to other places (like trnc) in order to make living.



why trnc?



Because everywhere else they'd need visa and a substantial amount of security money which they can only claim back on thier return.Hence the reason of most claiming political asylum on their arrival at X country.



Now,put yourself in their shoes.................would you want to be in EU?

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 11:43

msge 54



Hi Yorg



Are the Turks that come to NC from all over Turkey or are they mainly concentrated in Hatay? I hear TC's often say that we are inundated with people from Hatay. If Hatay, whats the relationship between this area and Turkey?

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 11:53

msge 54



Hi Yorg



Are the Turks that come to NC from all over Turkey or are they mainly concentrated in Hatay? I hear TC's often say that we are inundated with people from Hatay. If Hatay, whats the relationship between this area and Turkey?

girne 29


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Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 15:29

message 11



"Progress has been made (between the two leaders".



Same headline different year --2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011---------------------2030



Yawn ,zzz, zzzz, zzzzz,

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 16:55

msg 56



they are from all over the country,depending on what's required here.



hatay(I beleive they are in majority,and have own union now),mersin,adıyaman,urfa,maraş,kars,mardin............mainly for manual work.

ankara,istanbul(the so called more educated) for office work.





I was in gaziantep couple of weeks ago,and there I was accused of being a kafir (google it) and threatened to be spat on for being none relegion beleiver.









Appearently,we are blood brothers............my a**e..............



apologies for going off topic Simbas

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 19:31

Hi Yorg,



I can totally understand your feelings.Thanks for the posts,



Paul.

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 19:36

I say again................Follow the cash!



Hydrocarbons has a certain ring to it...............in my humble opinion.



wyn

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 19:38

"Cyprus Solution getting closer" and so, according to most scientists is the Moon...

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 20:29

msge 58



I would never have had you down as a non believer



Thanks for taking the time to respond to my question Yorgozlu

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 21:28

I think Xmas will be in November this year once we hear the the final solution. What do you think Paul?

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 21:35

I am already booked on the first direct flight Bill,



Paul.

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 21:37

Newlad,



THEY WONT LET YOU IN ANYWAY!



WYN

Stonehousepub


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Posts: 755

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 21:45

msg 58



Good posts Salahi... I totally agree with you

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 22:57

I have many guises Wyn,as you know,



Paul.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
18/10/2011 23:01

Does Dodger know?

Lionokan



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Posts: 90

Message Posted:
30/10/2011 10:56

Solution as soon as possible is very necessary for the cypriots

ang1706


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Posts: 570

Message Posted:
30/10/2011 11:10

I totally agree with you Lionokan, its been going nowhere for so long and hope the impasse is broken and both communities can be free in one way or another.



But something has to give from the South though!

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
30/10/2011 11:27

The South will as usual will give nothing,.. so the solution will be forced upon them.



That,s were the fun really starts.

deputydawg


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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
30/10/2011 11:35

Everything in the future gets closer, second by second !

Cobbler


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Posts: 61

Message Posted:
30/10/2011 19:33

So, what does the south need to give inorder to get a solution? An agreed solution would obviously mean that the north could use its ports, have direct flights and be recognised internationally etc otherwise it would not be a solution. What else would the Greeks have to do?

martinD41


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Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 11:39

Why does the Ex-pat community automatically assume that a solution between the Cypriots (GC/TC) would be beneficial to them?

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 12:01

Msg 74,



Presumably it would encompass a settlement to the land freehold title issue.



I do take note of the deeper issue in your statement and it may well be worth debating on Cyprus 44.



Good point!



wyn

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 12:21

The only settlement that it comes closer to,is two seperate states.Bring on the referendum,



Paul.

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
31/10/2011 12:44

Hi Newlad,



Back from your tent outside St Pauls, I see!



Do you really think that both sides are going to walk away from all that Hydrocarbons wealth?



Perhaps the Turks will offer to buy the South of the Island from the bubbles? (God only knows they need the cash) That would legitimiise TRNC issued Kochans.......problem solved. Triple Ouso,s all round!



wyn

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 13:00

Morning Lord Wynyard,



Let me spell it out for you,takes notes if you wish.



1 The two sides wont agree on re-unification.



2 A referendum will be held on unifying the island.



3 The Gcs will vote no



4 The Tcs will vote yes.



5 Two states will be agreed,





Dont forget to send the money,



Paul.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
31/10/2011 13:11

msg78 "Two States" will be agreed,..........one in the EU and eligible for hand outs, the other allied to Turkey, I'm not sure which will prosper least, or most....

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 13:30

Hiya Paul,



Revolution is no solution.



Follow the cash!



wyn

newlad



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Message Posted:
31/10/2011 15:12

"Revolution is no solution"Now is the time to get things right,



Paul.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 15:24

Newlad,



Look at your pic. No tie and what you said about poor Christophias! (poor little Commie )



OK then two states (as per your opinion) How do you share the hydrocarbons. Now theres a basis for war



imho. I think, they have to think" outside the box" to find a settlement. Lets face it, they have tried every other



way



wyn