If the uk leaves europe will this effect ex pats living in cyprus

stelee77


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 16:40

If britain leaves europe i guess it will stop the influx of people from eastern europe, but will the ones already here have to leave, and also do the british ex pats lose there right to live in cyprus spain ect ?.

yenibob


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 16:45

Going South would be interesting, as we would have no automatic right of entry to the EU.......Not likely though...is it?



I would miss Agia Napa!

stelee77


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 16:51

Well no, it's very likely now that the uk will leave the eu in two years, they have voted for the referendum, and the early signs are an easy win to leave.

yenibob


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 16:58

Parliament has voted down the referendum. I honestly cannot see any possibility of it happening in the foreseeable future.



It's a bit like capital punishment, the populace might want it, but we elect parties who don't.

stelee77


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 17:03

I hope your right.

yenibob


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 17:09

I rather hope I am wrong!

stelee77


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 17:15

Well in that case i think you may get your result.

yenibob


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 17:19

Based on what evidence?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 17:24

Interesting thread. If the UK leaves the EU... (the sooner the better) UK people have to ask for a visa to enter the Southern part of Cyprus (and any other part of Europe). FINAL CONCLUSION: Brits won't be Europeans anymore (well, were they ever?).

stelee77


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 17:26

What the experts predicted on tv last night and today.



personally i don't know, i'm only interested in what suits me.



Time will tell ?

elko2



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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 17:29

I hope UK will leave EU. It will be the beginning of the end for EU. New Zealand lamb chops will be plentiful in the shops again and the Brits will stop subsidising the inefficient and vociferous French farmers. Come to that, they will not have to carry the burden of Greece either.

ismet

stelee77


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 17:36

So what happens to all the ex pats in europe, will the ex pats in south cyprus have to qualify for residency meaning many may have to return to the uk if they don't meet the requirements, even if they have been there for a long time.

Think how many are living in spain.

erolz


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 17:41

Just to be clear there was a vote in parlimaent to decide if a referedum should be put to the people of the UK on EU membership. The motion was defeated by 483 votes to 111. Yes alot of tories voted against the wishes of their party leadership, 81, with 2 abstaining but still no where close to getting parilamentary support for a referendum.

stelee77


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 17:51

Yes i understand now, if it does go to a referendum they were saying that most brits will vote out, does this not mean it's just a matter of time.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 18:37

@ msg 14, stelee77: (...) if it does go to a referendum they were saying that most brits will vote out, does this not mean it's just a matter of time. (...)

▶ Yes, let's hope so. If people do not want or cannot understand the future of Europe - they should and must opt out. They will be very sorry, the UK will be an even more isolated island on the outskirts of the hated Continent. And NO-ONE will come to the rescue of this living-in-the-past-former-Empire.

P.S. Do the Brits really understand the consequences of opting out of the EU? I doubt it. About 700 million people in the EU, slowly but unstoppable moving to a united Europe - and the Brits want to opt out..?!

P.P.S. Tell me about the future of your island in this thread, Brits.

yenibob


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 18:58

Racisism is a very unpleasant trait in one so very very old!

stelee77


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 19:02

I don't know hans.



The uk is going down hill anyway, we don't make anything anymore, maybe we need europe in the long run ?.

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 19:05

Re: Msg 15,

"...Tell me about the future of your island in this thread, Brits"



UK will be annexed by the USA to form the world's largest Free Economic Burger Zone with 'burger' as its currency, which will be pegged to yuan (China being a major holder of their combined debt).

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 19:13

@ msg 16, yenibob: (...) Racisism (...)

▶ Huh? What does that mean..?! (Switch your spell checker on, please. Your education fails you.)



@ msg 17, stelee77: (...) The uk is going down hill anyway, we don't make anything anymore, maybe we need europe in the long run ?. (...)

▶ Nigel, a majority of the once important UK factories now belong to (random order) Chinese, Russian, Japanese, German etc owners. If the UK needs the EU (after opting out one day, which most Brits can hardly wait for, it seems) the UK will pay the price Germany and France and the rich, smaller countries will demand. It won't be cheap - most British workers (hmmm..., ex-workers) will thoroughly regret their resentment of the EU.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 19:35

Sorry! In msg 19 I forgot to sketch the bright future (...) of British pensioners - inside and outside the EU. Do Brits really think that your cheap, disgusting treatment of UK pensioners* (hesitantly paid from a complete bankrupt system) can go on this way..?! You must be kidding or never read a serious British newspaper.

* Before you ask me how Holland is doing: Holland has the best pensioners system in the world (check Google).

newscoop


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 19:38

DC; True Brits are not mittel Europeans, never have been, never will be. All the mainland of Europe is good for is conflict. You mention the British manufacturing base but what exactly do the Dutch produce these days? There is only one power in Europe and it lies to the north and east of Holland, you may have heard of it, it's called Germany. Bend over, assume the position, and get ready for the fourth Reich.



The only problem is that when the stormtroopers and Stukas come this time (metaphorically speaking) the Brits, Yanks, Canuks, Aussies, and New Zealanders won't be there to sort the problem out. Come to think of it all the countries I've just mentioned are the spawn of the hated Brits.



Strange or what?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 19:57

@ msg 21, newscoop: Dear Rev, I value you as someone interested in sports, but that's about it after this silly post. We're talking the UK opting out of the EU and you ask me what Holland produces these days. To answer your question though: Holland is a politically independent country and commercially just another very important province of mighty Germany. Holland sells knowledge to the world (owned by Dutchmen or Dutch companies) and Rotterdam (Holland) is the most important German harbour. Please check the list of the richest countries in the EU/world. Is it really so difficult to acknowledge that Holland is doing far better than the UK?

P.S. I don't remember that you (nor me) fought any Stormtroopers or Stuka's a couple of years ago.

P.P.S. "Hated Brits"? Your words. Arrogant and living in the past? Yes.

stelee77


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 20:00

19 - who's nigel ?



The problem with the uk is the high tax rates, they seem to think it's the way put of trouble. I watched a documentary about hong kong just after the war. Hong kong was in aright mess so they employed a brit to try and sort the economy out, so this english bloke turned up and the first thing he did was decrease income and corporate tax to a flat rate of 15% and everyone thought he was mad, within five years the place was thriving it encouraged business's to start up there, within ten years it was a leading economy in asia. They interviewed people in hong kong who are laughing there head of at the a english bloke got them on track and they cant sort out there own mess. There is a statue of him and everything. The problem with britain is it is lead by over educated people who did not lose there virginity until they were 35, with no common sense, it takes someone with balls to make the change. If i was cameron i would say ed you play dough carton charcter looking kn

stelee77


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 20:01

knob sit down shut up before i bite your nose of, we are going flat rate 15% all solved.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 20:03

@ msg 23, stelee77: (...) If i was cameron i would say ed you play dough carton charcter looking kn (...)

▶ Huh..?! Sorry, Nigel. I see that it's 8 pm so I give up with you.

stelee77


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 20:10

25



Hans seriously my name is steve unless this a dutch joke that thick brits don't get. Ask aj.



I think unless the uk takes a whole new approach like dropping tax rates, we need the eu, but i'll be in cyprus so i don't really care.

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 20:12

Re: Msg 21,

newscoop, Britain is too busy invading other countries and changing regimes to 'sort out' ( as you put it) herself, let alone rescue somebody else in Europe.





P.S. You forgot to mention France in your list of powerful European 'friends'.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 21:26

"In the EU or Out of the EU"



Frantic thoughts of a country (UK) in the "Death Throws" of Empire.as a non EU citizen I find it rather pathetic...

Turtle


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 22:02

As a Tory voter all my life I was disgusted with the way Cameron sent in his henchmen (whips) to threaten any dissenting minister on this EU debate. He ought to be ashamed of himself.



There are a few on here singing the praises of this fantastic thing called the EU and all the time they live in a country so detached from it........why is that ?

KarmaSooty1


Joined: 29/09/2011
Posts: 91

Message Posted:
25/10/2011 22:24

Perhaps poor DC has lost track of the economic realities.



Europe used to have 30% of the world's GDP and now is just 15% and declining fast.



The Commonwealth now accounts for 30% of the world's GDP.



I for one would rather get tied up with our "old Empire" that remain involved with a corrupt organisation being dragged down by Rumanians, Bulgarians, Greeks and shortly Serbians and other Eastern European rubbish.



Even worse being tied to that lot in NATO with the dreadful prospect of having British soldiers fighting alongside "cowardly Dutch poofs in hairnets" (and I quote a US General giving evidence to congress about Srebrenica.) Frankly the prospect of one British soldier ever having to fight with 10,000 Dutch soldiers protecting his flank is unacceptable. They would be far too busy smoking pot and buggering each other to worry about the enemy.

pawson


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 22:42

Clearly still an emotive issue after all these years. I am pleased that the Dutch Crusader seems content to be a province of Germany. I would not be. Strange that the South used the EU to establish it's validity, clearly the EU condones historic genocide.

GB has contributed more every year to the EU than it has taken out, it has complied to every food regulation, health regulation and other nonsense emanating from Brussels.It has allowed a steady attrition of our national identity.

I do not recall Norway having much of an empire...they manage without the EU.I can remeber the people of Denmark, a very pragmatic country, not being keen on the EU. My brother a Swede for thirty years tells me the Swedes want out.

At the present Greece, Ireland, Spain and Italy all seem to be teetering on the brink of collapse.Around the time of the first Greek bail out the South bought tanks!Were they bought from an EU source...the Dutch Crusader will know.

Get us out of the madhouse.

KarmaSooty1


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 22:46

Oh dear, fun's over for the evening. The DutchCrusader has buggered off, as it were.

Sideways



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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 22:54

D.C.

(Before you ask me how Holland is doing: Holland has the best pensioners system in the world (check Google). ).



Where are all the other EU Nations ? Other than Sweden, the U.K. is above the other 24 !!



Plus we still have the best engineers in the WORLD .

KarmaSooty1


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Message Posted:
25/10/2011 23:19

Nobel laureates



UK 118 or 18.8 per 10mil population



Netherlands 19 or 11.5 per 10 mil population





LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL



What a bunch of bimbos



oh yes



and the Huns 103 or 12.6 per 10 mil of population





and the Frogs 58 or 8.9 per 10 mil population



and the world 830 or 1.2 per 10 mil population





So UK 118 out of 830 or 14%



UK is as % of world population 0.9%



As usual the UK punches above it's weight.

stelee77


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Posts: 557

Message Posted:
26/10/2011 00:05

If the uk leave europe, i guess border hoping may become a lot harder in cyprus.



Cameron is talking about staying in europe but re negotiating the deal. Sounds about right why should the uk pick up the pieces. Who's fed up paying immigrants doll money who have no intention of working and paying tax, paying for pointless invasions sucking up to the us. Talk about drain our resources.



Stay out of wars, stop handing money out, lower taxes, but your own people first.