turkish pm does NOT mince his words !

foxylad


Joined: 01/11/2011
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Message Posted:
22/11/2011 19:24

on syria in a televised address Turkish pm says ..... If you want to see someone who has fought until death against his own people, just look at Nazi Germany, just look at ► Hitler, at Mussolini, at Nicolae Ceausescu in Romania," he said.► "If you cannot draw any lessons from these, then look at the Libyan leader who was killed just 32 days ago."◄ more here ► http://bit.ly/uaih8E

blade


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Message Posted:
22/11/2011 20:00

Just look at Turkey and their Kurdish population!

Pot and kettle comes to mind.

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
23/11/2011 21:53

Erdogan today made an official apology for the 13,000 Kurds that Turkey killed in the 1930's

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
24/11/2011 07:26

Msg 2:



Don't confuse the Kurdish with Syria, Egypt or any other conflict that's going on in the middle east. There is a vast difference between them.



Turkey as a republic holds elections as required in law, where as the rest are all self imposed Government, The ex Libya Government took power 40 years ago and had not called one single election since, the same applies to Syria, and all the Arab countries that are now having problems.



If you want to accuse Turkey of anything then look at N.Ireland first, what is the difference between what Turkey is doing and what the British Goverment did, not so far in the past.



If Scotland, Wales or any part of the UK wanted to break away from being The UK, is the British Goverment going to sit their and allow it.



The Kurdish problem exist thanks to the US and other E.U countries who give support to terrorism in Turkey.

dougskud



Joined: 04/04/2008
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Message Posted:
24/11/2011 11:29

Hi Erkin re your message 4 and your penultimate line.



It's already started, there is a growing acceptance that Scotland will achieve independence.



It will be achieved peacefully and the Scottish population will spend the rest of their lives regretting being lead to Independence by the "Numpty" Salmon.



regards



Doug

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
24/11/2011 12:01

msge 5



Doug



Paddy Ashdown wrote an article the other day, stating that the EURO and Britain would not be in the dire position that it is today, if Britain had joined the EU.



He was trying to scare the English, but he said that once Scotland gets independence and if the EURO was back on course, the Scots would join the EURO straight away. This would leave the poor English in the wilderness.



It might be that the English vote for independence. Three Edinburgh university students were interviewed yesterday. The two English students have to pay substantial tuition fees and the Scot pays nothing. The Scot also pointed out that Polish students, because of an agreement with the EU also pay nothing towards their tuition fees.



It has only taken us a couple of posts to go from talking about Turkey to Scotland

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
24/11/2011 12:12

Msg 4 and 5:



You honestly think that Scotland will break away from The UK, and loose out on the north sea oil and gas, don't think so.



O flower of Scotland

When will we see your like again

That fought and died for

Your wee bit hill and glen

And stood against him

Proud Edward's army

And sent him homeward

Tae think again



The hills are bare now

And autumn leaves lie thick and still

O'er land that is lost now

Which those so dearly held

And stood against him

Proud Edward's army

And sent him homeward

Tae think again

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
24/11/2011 14:36

msge 7



".....don't think so"



You are probably right. Why is it that Scots have 1,600 pounds per more spent on them than the English, Welsh and Irish?



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-15415218

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
24/11/2011 14:37

1,600 pounds per head more.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
24/11/2011 19:58

I think that Scotland , Wales and Ireland should break away from England. After all we would be doing OK if it weren't for carrying them. You only have to look at southern Ireland to know where they would all be if that happened.

Turkey may hold elections but isn't it the Kurdish people who are not allowed to run? How many have died since Erdogan came to power? Freedom of the press? Just lock up anyone who says anything out of turn. So you actually want us to believe that Turkey has fair honest elections?



In life there is a very fine line between freedom fighter and terrorist!

Interesting that you are in Ledra street working for a united Cyprus. Maybe you should ask some of your GC friends , who funds the Kurds? cos i heard a few stories from mine about some people having a common goal. Then thats getting a bit to deep for cy44.

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
05/12/2011 15:29

Msg 10, What rubbish,



Every person in Turkey is permitted to run in election, Kurdish, Turkish what ever, you seem to forget that Turkey has had 2 presidents who were Kurdish.



In respect to Mr Erdogan, it is a war and the army will do and take what ever measures required to ensure the safety of the Country.

One thing that you seem not to see or do not want to see, is that if Turkey was to grant an indepence to the Kurds in S.E Turkey, this will lead to civil war in Turkey.

If Turkey allowed the indepence to the Kurds in Turkey, what about the other Kurds in Iran, Iraq, Syria.



They would not agree on a pwer share and this would lead to civil war. The othe point that you seem to forget is that, everyone is aware that part of the country is rich in minerals and oil, it is all a matter of time before they start drilling. Turkey is in no way ready to drill as per the 1923 Agreement. But after 2023 , You watch the wealth explosion in Turkey.

TJinthesun



Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
05/12/2011 16:08

The 1923 agreement?

Excuse my ignorance

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
05/12/2011 20:58

msg 12:

TREATY OF PEACE WITH TURKEY SIGNED AT LAUSANNE

JULY 24, 1923

THE CONVENTION RESPECTING THE REGIME OF THE STRAITS AND OTHER INSTRUMENTS SIGNED AT LAUSANNE

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
05/12/2011 21:07

Well, I left my jigsaw in the UK when I left but none of them have made any sort of use out of it yet! Probably because England will not share it with Scotland who will not share it with Wales and NI don't need it anyway, so Britain can not be cut up to suit the voters. Can't see there is any real difference between the three bits of Britain fighting to gain their own bit of independence than the two bits of Cyprus fighting to gain theirs? It all comes back to money in the end and anyway, who will own the IOM????



Is there anything in the world that people won't fight and argue over to own because the grass is greener over there?



Yep - Canada! Lovely country, lovely people and no problems with anyone (well apart from the French bit), maybe we should all just learn to say "A" after everything and it would work out ok.