jehovah 's witnesses in north cyprus

tmoney007


Joined: 20/12/2011
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 17:20

hello everyone, i'm an international student coming to north cyprus(EMU) this coming january, please i need valuable information as regards precise address of any kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses(though i read in another section of the forum that it appears that there is a kingdom hall in nicosia and famagusta, yet it wasn't stated with conviction).therefore, anyone who has the address or information of the kingdom hall or any jehovah's witness in north cyprus should please post it here or email me: taiwo.ahmed84@yahoo.com

cinders


Joined: 08/10/2011
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 19:09

You must be jokng, this is Muslim country and although they are extremly tolerate of every religion, jehovah witness is a bit dodgy

EssexPhil


Joined: 04/04/2011
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 19:22

Just bought a Jehovah's Witness advent calendar.................



Every time you open a door someone tells you to F**K OFF !

paddywack


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 959

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 19:50

Another Nigerien wind up merchant

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 19:52

Msg 1. happy Christmas

tmoney007


Joined: 20/12/2011
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 19:57

@cinders and essexphil,it appears dat u do not understand my inquiry.i didn't ask if it is DODGY or not. Neither did i ask about its rarity.PLEASE, all i just need is a valuable information as regards the address of the kingdom hall or contact.thanks 4 ur contribution anyway...

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 19:57

Msg 1

You are needed as a blood donor; free visa, free accommodation and full social services will provided for you and your entire tribe, just donate!



Richard

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 20:01

Attracted by the "Watch Tower" which is St Hilarion ? How hilarious is that ?

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 20:03

I suppose there may be some brainwashed people there!

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 20:32

msg1,



Although I am not a Jehova's witness, I think you will find there is a kingdom hall in south Nicosia.



For all you forum members who find msg1 a huge joke, what has happened to your manners? I was

brought up to believe that everyone had the freedom and right to believe and worship whichever god

he chose and in whichever way he wanted.





The butlers wife

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 20:35

I don't find it a huge joke at all! From personal experience I consider the Witnesses, like any other brainwashing, money-making sect, to be a disgrace.

stubbs1


Joined: 07/08/2011
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 20:48

Human Rights Act.



Everyone shall have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. This right shall include freedom to have or adopt a religion or belief of his choice, and freedom, either individually or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in worship, observance, practice or teaching.



This was glossed by the UN Human Rights Committee.

Unless of course you don't believe in human rights. I find the depth of attack on this issue quite disturbing.

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 20:54

Msg 12. I don't know if this is a wind up or not, however I agree with you wholeheartedly. The out and out bigotry which raises its ugly head on this Forum on occasions is quite frightening and should not be tolerated.

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 21:06

if you e-mail me on trnchealthcare@gmail.com I will put you in touch with Jehovah witnesses here in the North.

I do not agree with most of their religion / policies but who am I to judge!



Chris

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 21:09

there is indeed a kingdom hall in nicosia , contact elko, msg 1 , he might be able to give you the address , good luck .

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 21:12

Very diplomatic Msg14 ..... and well said

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 21:12

Msg 13

You should know better! An eighteen year old from Lagos on his second C44 post starts spouting off/out religious sect rhetoric without even being in the TRNC, and you wonder why the 'wind-up' reply posts?!



Richard

stubbs1


Joined: 07/08/2011
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 21:12

Chris to help all you need to do is the right thing. Your offer is the right thing. It's not a 2 sided posting were you need to take a side or be dammed. Your first line was sufficient, that was the right thing. It did'nt need the last. Yes, who are you to judge!

steps426


Joined: 05/12/2011
Posts: 108

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 21:17

It is disgusting that people such as messages 2 3 7 8 & 11 are allowed to get away with this kind of trash on this forum when others get banned for much less - well said the butler & stubbs1

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 21:18

Sorry Richard (Brinsley)



But where has He 'Spouted off/out religious sect rhetoric',?, Perhaps Our glasses are different strengths, but I am reading that He's simply asking for contact details.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 21:28

Msg 20, ttoli

Apologies.

I have a personal hidden agenda against this brainwashing sect. Enough said.



Richard

tmoney007


Joined: 20/12/2011
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 21:30

@ all- thanks for ur contribution.however, please more positive comment are needed...

tmoney007


Joined: 20/12/2011
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 21:30

@ the butler, i REALLY appreciate ur helpful comment.more so, i will kindly appreciate additional assistance from others, thanks...

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 21:33

Re: Msg 21,



"...I have a personal hidden agenda against this brainwashing sect..."



It covers all religions and most of the political ideologies then, Brinsley!

astro941


Joined: 22/05/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 22:10

What ever happened to Religeous tolerance, as we approach the celebration of goodwill to all men the intollerant come out of the woodwork with predudice and cant.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 22:32

why choose to live in a muslim country richard ?

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 22:50

Msg 26, Rowlo

Why live at all when there's no blood to give or receive?!



Richard

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
20/12/2011 22:59

To message 1 - why don't you wait until you get here. those living here on campus will probably have all the knowledge you need. You might even find others from your country living here who share the same beliefs. But you must recognise that this is a Muslim/secular state, and although they now accept both anglican and roman Catholics of the Christian faith, it is not so accepting of others. also of course any religious organisation has to get permission from the government to be an organisation, and that takes a long time and not everyone is given it, so it could wlel be that you will have to rely on finding friends rather than an actual Kingdom hall. Yes, there might be one in the south, but youwill have to keep crossing the border, and will your visa allow that.

as I say, far better to wait until you arrive, than to lay yourself open to comments which may hurt.

stubbs1


Joined: 07/08/2011
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 00:20

Marion,



People come on this site to get information and seek support in matters relating to Northern Cyprus. The member is simply doing a recce. Lets look at what advice and support you offer. " You might even find others from your counntry living here who share the same beliefs". Is patronising a strong point for you? From an expertise prospective and from a sound advice stance why don't you keep your distance because you simply haven't got any. You obviously want to help, but really, your in put dosen't even come close.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 01:07

wow, that's a bit of a nasty comment, stubbs 1. what brought that about! Ihappen to have worked with students here, and know their needs, and where they might find answers. That is hardly patronising! I thought it was 'caring' but obviously you see things froma different perspective. so what advice would you give . Our lovely Nurse Awful has made one offer, on which you comment quite rightly, but you have made no solid suggestions. and maybe message 1 is the judge as to what comes close to answering his question.

other posters have been judgemental and condemning, so best the enquirer is spared more of the same.

But it is always interesting to have input on how one is seen. you are the first person who has ever used the word 'patronising'.

By the way do you live here???

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 01:10

msg 30, why is location an issue?

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 01:21

just curious as to how much stubbs has a feel for the place. I t is one thing to visit for holidays and another to have an in depth knowledge of the place,its customs, tradtions, life style etc, which is normally gained through living there in the every day. Not always the case, of course, but often is. that's why I asked! Tamam?

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 01:25

Msg 32 , so as you have "in depth Knowledge"

I guess you own/rent turkish title

Jonholmes


Joined: 08/11/2011
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 01:52

phil a little bias, I am sure that all people who visit or live in Cyprus are aware of the history of the island .If someone decides to live on either side, I am sure they are happy to do so.

berkeh2001


Joined: 28/02/2009
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 05:10

just a bit of friendly don't go round knocking on doors saying your a jehovah's witness you will not like the answer you will get or even something more be safe . i am not judging you . your religion is your choice

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 05:52

Marion, journalist,teacher,quiz master human rights campaigner,theater critic,etc etc etc and now student councilor is there no end to this lady's talents?

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 07:17

I don't see a problem here , Marion is only trying to help .

Simbas

spokesy


Joined: 18/12/2011
Posts: 13

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 07:19

have to agree with rowlo on this why choose a muslim country.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 07:31

Msg 38 , why not ? these days people of all denominations live everywhere in the world , not just the countries sensitive to their religions .

Simbas

swyflot


Joined: 07/11/2008
Posts: 916

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 07:43

Each to his own.

Last time i heard this is a secular country,and yes there are Jehovas witnesses

over here,i have met them and they are likeable people.



Mr Swyflot

tmoney007


Joined: 20/12/2011
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 08:07

@everyone, thanks for ur contribution.



@Nureawful, i've mailed u and i'll be expecting ur kind reply...

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 08:23

tmoney007,



Have e-mailed you back, if not there please check in spam.



Chris

Cocklebay


Joined: 26/02/2011
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 08:42

Message 2 Cinders, love it or hate but the KKTC is a secular country. There all religions are free to practice here>

lovinit


Joined: 20/06/2008
Posts: 745

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 11:04

wow, peace and goodwill to all.



Yes there is a kingdom hall in TRNC in Nicosia, I am not sure of the address although I have seen it. There are a number of witnesses here.

Very kind people the ones I have met.........feel so sorry for the Bigotry voiced on this site, as normal it just shows how tolerant some of our forum members are.



As I said earlier season’s greetings to you all.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 11:37

wow, Hippo. I am just 'one of the ruins that cromwell bashed about a bit' and acquired some useful info on the way! Iam not sure that i have 'talents' - merely acquired skills and knowledge from being around a bit. Just happy to do what i can. And yes, I have done a counselling course when I was a Reader in the church, but this is nothing to do with counselling is it. It is just trying to help someone to fit into a life they are expecting here.

As to JW's , some of my best friends were and are JW's. People are people and faith is life, and life is love. so that is what this time of the year is all about - innit! Love. My only concern is that the poster may be disappointed, but then his time here as a student is all about learning about life - and I just help there are those who will help him. Pleased to hear there is a Kingdom Hall in Nicosia, but as our student is at Famagusta, that culd prove difficult for him. So hope he finds friends on campus. A truly happy Christmas to all!

LaptaGeezer


Joined: 01/06/2010
Posts: 407

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 11:43

I think that the negativity towards JWs comes from the door knocking method of approaching people... although I must say that I have not had any JWs knocking on my door for many years. If you have a particular faith then live that way, just don't go bothering others to try and 'convert' them.... if an individual wants to find that way of life then they will do so, and without being steered towards it.



That way we can all co-exist and the negatives are reduced, which in the long run is better for all.

Lester


Joined: 23/02/2011
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 11:48

Ignoring some of the earlier trash comments, getting back to the original question, there is a small JW community in Lefkosa and Famagusta. We had a recent visit from a group that live in Lapta. They were very pleasant but no, I wasn't converted and I remain a lapsed agnostic. Live and let live.

fidelis


Joined: 16/11/2011
Posts: 33

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 11:52

Hey i think even if there is no kingdom hall here for to worship,i think u can be the first to open one provided the laws of this land will tolerate u.Anyway,there is religious tolerance even though it is a muslim state.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 12:17

a good point fidelis, but it is VERY challenging to set up an organisation here, and one has (Ibelieve) to have Turkish Cypriot partners and, and, and...............Probably not worth it for the duration of a student's life here, but of course if there are groups he can get to, then fine, and if there is one in Famagusta, that will suit him well.

There is religious tolerance, but the emphasis is on 'tolerance'. I believe that the church in kyrenia is of a charitable status as a 'friendly sociiety' - but as they say, love conquers all. Hope our new student finds a lot of it in Famagusta. There are certainly a lot of young african christians over there, so hopefully he will feel 'at home' even if he cannot follow his faith in the way he is used to doing.

oliveoil


Joined: 16/03/2008
Posts: 58

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 12:51

Message 46 laptageezer

Through time immemorial people have been knocking on doors to spread the word of the lord (which ever one they worship) by knocking on doors, maybe you should not always read into it literally, some do it physically by hitting the doorbell or using the knocker or knocking with their knuckles to impart their message, others use differing ways to spread the word, isn't that what Christians do every year at this time, there will possibly -'nay' - probably be those who say that is a way of spreading the Christian word, the Imam belts out his message five times a day in Muslim countries (and a lot of Secular states to avoid argument), this is just another way of spreading the word.

Merry CHRISTmas

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 12:53

Yes, Olive. And don't forget the politicians and their door knocking. If the message is good, share it! If it is a message that will make your life of greater value and in turn be of greater value to others, then take it on board. If not - wait for the next message!

tmoney007


Joined: 20/12/2011
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 13:03

@ lester and others, thanks for ur helpful comment...

steve.sewell


Joined: 07/11/2011
Posts: 277

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 15:08

plant the seed. watch it grow.



oo7jehoviah

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 15:25

I have said it before





Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around... and PLEASE don't try to shove it down my child's throat.

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 15:49

And, in my opinion, it's just as crass and tasteless a comment this time, phil...

tmoney007


Joined: 20/12/2011
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 17:58

Hello everyone,the aim of this particular topic has been justified and actualised.Therefore, i deem it appropriate to say that there is no need for any more comment as regards to this...thanks for all ur contribution

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 18:46

Agreed. Perhaps the moderators wil now close it, but may I say I hope you will be very happy when you come to cyprus, and that you find friendship and love. here are a lot of good people here - you may have already decided who some of them are. I know that you don't celebrate Christmas, but i send my greetings to you for the new |year and your safe arrival over here.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 19:45

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.