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delcraft
Joined: 24/01/2011 Posts: 4
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 15:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 32 in Discussion |
| On Sunday January 8th we are calling everyone to come and protest against the proposed oil and gas storage tanks that they want to build in the fields of Yedikonuk village. Just 10 km east of Kaplica on the north coast road, they want to allow 36 storage tanks for petrol, diesel, gas and tar...which will virtually spoil the area for anything else like walking, picnicking, bird spotting, snorkeling, swimming, orchid spotting,fishing, cycling, camping and all the other eco-agro-activities of this virtually untouched part of Karpaz. So bring your own egg sandwiches and lemonade or whatever you like to eat out-of-doors in nature and join us for the " No!-to-the-Petroleum-Storage-Tanks Initiative" (made up of local environmental NGOs and villagers of Yedikonuk, Buyukkonuk, Balalan, Kaplica, Kilitkaya and others from the area) Just drive up from Kyrenia along the north coast road past Kaplica making sure you don't turn to Buyukkonuk but go straight along the new road towards Balalan. |
DutchCrusader
Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 15:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 32 in Discussion |
| Just for the record: foreigners are now allowed to actively demonstrate/protest - it's the TRNC law. Your presence (in silent support) may be tolerated by the authorities. |
sporty
Joined: 06/12/2007 Posts: 685
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 16:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 32 in Discussion |
| hi,i presume that because of the materials that are shipped in,it makes sense to have storage near the coast somewhere and i also assume that protesters will be walking to get there instead of taking cars and walk over fields instead of using tarmaced roads?? Oh yes and they better turn off all the electric in theyre houses to as the power station using fossil fuels that need storing. I agree that these tanks shouldnt be put in sensitive areas but its our lifestyles/ammenities that makes these tanks needed,best thing would be underground storage or perhaps a disused quarry. Good luck with your protest. |
martinD41
Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 3001
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 16:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 32 in Discussion |
| Msg 2 Where would the numerous Local Villagers mentioned in your second paragraph like the Fuel storage tanks based,as an alternative to Karpaz? |
DutchCrusader
Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 17:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 32 in Discussion |
| @ msg 4: I'm not a local villager so how would I know? Get out more and ask them. |
mikelapta
Joined: 20/11/2008 Posts: 2186
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 17:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 32 in Discussion |
| Some 10 plus years ago,in discovering Northern Cyprus,I loved going to the Karpaz,lovely little roads,hedgerows of orchids,wheat fields with purple flowers,like gladioli,birds with bright colours...blue,yellow. Then they started building the atrocious harbour,completely out of place.It was meant to be for yachts,but looking at the size,I suppose tankers will be arriving to top up the tanks. If the fuel is for the power station,and that area of Esentepe is ugly,why not put all the uglyness in one place? When I go to Karpaz now,from the new harbour to Barcadi beach,I look inland and not towards the sea !! I agree with the protesters,it is the rape of beautiful scenery,and unique not just to the North,but in the whole of Cyprus. Mike |
dippersgirl
Joined: 04/05/2010 Posts: 795
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 18:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 32 in Discussion |
| I read that this storage of fuel is not for the benefit of locals, but a commercial venture for resale to other countries!!! Locals just get the inconvenience and no benefit, other than a very few jobs |
martinD41
Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 3001
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 19:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 32 in Discussion |
| Sorry DC my question was to msg 1,, slip of the finger... |
martinD41
Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 3001
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 19:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 32 in Discussion |
| msg8.... The Oil Cartels are all powerful, protests do little to reduce their greed..be thankful the Atomic Generating people are not interested at the moment... |
martinD41
Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 3001
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 19:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 32 in Discussion |
| DC, if you "GOT OUT" more in the "NOW" Cyprus rather than living in the(Historical) past, you would have posted on this worrying subject months ago....Your views on the ideal site for the inevitable" Fuel Dump" would be greatly appreciated,Salamis perhaps...?. |
philbailey
Joined: 17/01/2011 Posts: 3534
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 19:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 32 in Discussion |
| Cyprusnow would be a good name for a website ? |
DutchCrusader
Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 19:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 32 in Discussion |
| @ msg 11, martinD41: I prefer not to correspond about Northern Cyprus - with people who don't like it here anyway. |
dippersgirl
Joined: 04/05/2010 Posts: 795
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 19:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 32 in Discussion |
| This thread is important, please no taunting and bickering!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Life is too short to waste please !! |
martinD41
Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 3001
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 19:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 32 in Discussion |
| Good "Get Out" Hans ,but the question still stands! ,,(where should the Fuel Dump be sited in your opinion ?) By the way I have NEVER said I don't like North Cyprus,,, but unlike you, to me it is not "quite" Paradise.. |
martinD41
Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 3001
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 19:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 32 in Discussion |
| I know this is serious Dipper, that's why I asked Hans.......... |
Turtle
Joined: 28/05/2007 Posts: 2669
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 20:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 32 in Discussion |
| Suppose its like any dumpsite of any description,....... no one wants it in their back yard ! |
rowlo
Joined: 12/10/2008 Posts: 4796
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 20:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 32 in Discussion |
| its got to be stored somewhere , are you still living in the dark ages msg1, life will go on . |
martinD41
Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 3001
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 20:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 32 in Discussion |
| Well said Rowlo,....It's called progress, and everything comes at a price.( still waiting for DC's idea as to where he thinks it should be sited )..?? |
dippersgirl
Joined: 04/05/2010 Posts: 795
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 20:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 32 in Discussion |
| Why do we want it when the fuel is not for us but for reselling to other countries!!!!!!!!!! This is what it said in the papers when they first talked about it!!! |
AlsancakJack
Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 21:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 32 in Discussion |
| Unfortunately there are worse things about to happen in the Med re oil and gas. Storage of hydro carbons on land unfortunately are not best done underground as there is far to many problems that cannot be controlled if this method is chosen. Does anyone know who the operator is likely to be? |
Enchanted
Joined: 20/07/2008 Posts: 159
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 21:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 32 in Discussion |
| The oil companies will love NC. No laws on polution, just a few back handers, and they can do what they like!! |
paddywack
Joined: 04/05/2009 Posts: 959
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 21:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 32 in Discussion |
| Msg21, Trafigura possbly. |
AlsancakJack
Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 22:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 32 in Discussion |
| paddywack Message 23 I hope you are incorrect! |
paddywack
Joined: 04/05/2009 Posts: 959
Message Posted: 31/12/2011 14:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 32 in Discussion |
| Msg 24 Remember the Ivory Coast, |
martinD41
Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 3001
Message Posted: 31/12/2011 20:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 32 in Discussion |
| Still waiting on DC's reply as to where the best site Geographically speaking should be ... |
dippersgirl
Joined: 04/05/2010 Posts: 795
Message Posted: 08/01/2012 23:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 32 in Discussion |
| I hope todays protest was well attended. Unfortunately I am still in UK, so could not be there |
delcraft
Joined: 24/01/2011 Posts: 4
Message Posted: 10/01/2012 12:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 32 in Discussion |
| Thanks for your comments. I realize some don't know that it will be a free-port basis with open sea trading going on. There will be extremely little economic benefit to locals and all bad news for the environment. The Environmental Report for Lefke and Famagusta was negative, so why is it suddenly okay in Karpaz, especially when the same government made Buyukkonuk a Pilot Ecovillage and there has been about 3 million dollars worth of investment in the area already for eco-tourism infrastructure, the majority from the Turkish Embassy. Tourists, both international and local, come to the area to enjoy the fresh air and scenery, for leisure activities, village life, food and culture. Many people besides foreign residents read this site. There are different ways to help protest. You might even alert your media 'back home' to raise awareness internationally. And if you are a citizen you have every right to protest here. by the way, it went well on Sunday despite the bad weather. |
cyprusairsoft
Joined: 22/06/2009 Posts: 2066
Message Posted: 10/01/2012 14:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 32 in Discussion |
| its funny we all put the stuff in our mopeds cars etc but we dont want to see it stored!!! seen and not heard comes to mind |
dippersgirl
Joined: 04/05/2010 Posts: 795
Message Posted: 10/01/2012 17:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 32 in Discussion |
| You miss the point cyprusairsoft, it's not for your moped!!!!!!!!!!! its for other countries, not Kibris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We just get the mess and I am sure very little financial reward for locals!!!!!!!!! I for one will try to get foreign media interested!!! Here is one already, in German!! http://aphroditesschatten.wordpress.com |
dippersgirl
Joined: 04/05/2010 Posts: 795
Message Posted: 10/01/2012 17:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 32 in Discussion |
| In Cyprus Today it said that the Dipkarpaz mayor said, he welcomes it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did he engage the brain??? Well, probably he did as there must be something in it for him |
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