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No1Doyen


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08/02/2012 22:09

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Almost half a century of negotiations have failed to bring a fruitful outcome for the unification to the ethnically divided Mediterranean island of Cyprus. There is nothing left that both sides have not already discussed in detail over the years; however, instead of making progress on reconciling differences, things have gone from bad to worse, and hopes for a settlement have faded. I wonder if the time has come -- or already passed -- to be honest with ourselves and admit that other options such as partition and separation may be all that's left.





http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-263874-end-of-the-game-in-cyprus.html



philbailey


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08/02/2012 22:13

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Hardly an indenpent view

with a name .ABDULLAH BOZKURT



DutchCrusader



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08/02/2012 22:20

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@ msg 1, No1Doyen: Though interesting to read: the column is dated November 25, 2011.

P.S. I know you have an iPhone - download the free Zaman app and you have all the news daily (even with push notifications).



EamonnMc


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No1Doyen,



An excellent article, balanced and forceful.



Turtle


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08/02/2012 22:22

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Would it be more independent if his name was Georgiades



DutchCrusader



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08/02/2012 22:26

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@ msg 5: Turtle, did you expect a different remark from "philbailey", the honorary PR manager of the Greek speaking Cypriots?



No1Doyen


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08/02/2012 22:28

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Stay on topic please.



philbailey


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08/02/2012 22:30

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Did I expect anything less

from the rose tinted Hans

people in your country sayiing not mine

shame about that forum



Maybe for once "you were punching over your weight "

an old english saying



Turtle


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08/02/2012 22:31

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Not really DC but he obviously thinks no one else should have a view.





Turkish people talking about turkish issues who'd have thought it eh ?



newlad



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08/02/2012 22:37

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Hans,



Whether the article is from 2011 or 2005,nothing has changed.The talks are still at deadlock,



Paul.



Jonesy299


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09/02/2012 00:30

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Msg 8 - the correct English saying and correct boxing term is "punching above your weight"..... if we are going to lecture our foreign neighbours on our own sayings let's get it right.



philbailey


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Msg 11, you obviously missed my point



bertieboss


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09/02/2012 01:39

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TRNC is now a Turkish military base which will not be surrendered easily whatever "talks" take place !!!



philbailey


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Msg 13, are sure the minority of t/cs left

would agree?



andre514


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09/02/2012 04:42

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philbailey,



you recently expressed surprise that I agreed with your comments on a different thread



what you seem to be doing in your various postings on this topic, is taking a position in

opposition to that of the writer in "todays szaman" .....as well as revealing some dismay



all well and good, and who am I to define the rightness and wrongness of these issues?



but what has always struck me about the cyprus "problem" itself is the vital question of

from exactly whose perspective one is looking at the situation?

knowing that, or knowing you as if to refer to alan partridge will tend to produce any of

the possible choice of opinions from a long but highly predictable list



canada


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09/02/2012 07:27

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Turkey will never give up the trnc at any cost



DutchCrusader



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@ msg 10, newlad: (...) Hans, Whether the article is from 2011 or 2005,nothing has changed.The talks are still at deadlock, (...)



▶ I know Paul - nothing wrong with the column. But the subject (and this very column) has been discussed on this forum after AJ posted the same link on November 25, 2011: [ http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/79800.asp ]. That's why it was déja vu for me.



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