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DutchCrusader



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21/02/2012 17:42

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In 2012 Turkey and the Netherlands celebrate 400 years of diplomatic relations. There will be many expositions and festivities in both countries. One of the highlights will be the exposition (Istanbul) of paintings of old Dutch masters. A great opportunity to see marvellous paintings that are seldom exhibited - it's a short and inexpensive trip to Istanbul!

If you are interested in this exhibition and possibly the other celebrations: type these words in Google " turkije nederland 400 jaar " and read the translations.

P.S. I'll be pleased to reply to your questions!



Cyprusactive


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21/02/2012 18:48

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Must be true as they have all turned up here!



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Not being pedantic but;



As the 80 years war didn't 'officially' end until 1648, isn't the 400 years thing a bit spurious?



Only asking.



Now retreating behind bullet proof steel.



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DC....you can see on http://www.mymerhaba.com under "Exhibits at Istanbul Modern" regarding the celebrations. Even better if people are planning to go to Istanbul before May 6th to see for themselves.



DutchCrusader



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@ msg 3, Newscoop: (...) As the 80 years war didn't 'officially' end until 1648, isn't the 400 years thing a bit spurious? (...)

▶ "Spurious" = false or fake. Why, Rev? There are many more examples of countries establishing or maintaining diplomatic relations with friendly nations while fighting a war (of freedom). For instance: France and Holland + America <-> England.



hwilde


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22/02/2012 10:24

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Britainís relations with Turkey have a long history.



Formal diplomatic relations were established with the appointment of an English ambassador to the "Sublime Porte" (as the Ottoman government was known) in 1583.



TRNCVaughan


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Portuguese_Alliance



CyprusNow


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More of Hollands "history."



"Germany invaded Holland on May 10th 1940. Holland surrendered just six days later"



DutchCrusader



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Sick people should stay in bed or pay a visit to a psychiatrist.



CyprusNow


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What are you doing up then?



CyprusNow


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By the way DC, it will be the seventeenth anniversary in July of the Dutch cowardly failure to protect the Muslim inhabitants of Srebrenica. This inmcluded:



"13 July 1995: The first killings of unarmed Muslims took place in a warehouse in the nearby village of Kravica.



Peacekeepers handed over about 5,000 Muslims who had been sheltering at the Dutch base at Potocari. In return, the Bosnian Serbs released 14 Dutch peacekeepers who had been held at the Nova Kasaba base."



There is a far more significant piece of Dutch history.



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Hans, I don't know why you even try to bring '44' interesting items like this one.



It appears that you are to be held responsible personally for all the wrongdoings of the Dutch over the centuries. But we need to remember that no country came out of history with 'clean hands'.



Bit off thread I know but am just reading Rutherford's New York, I was amazed to find what a huge part the Dutch settlers played in establishing Manhattan and all the other areas. I was unaware that so many of the names of places and old families in NY reflect their Dutch heritage. By the way, the British were absolutely treacherous in those early days. Marvellous book, It looks like I am going to plough my way through everything he has written. Love books like these!



CyprusNow


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Don't be daft dear:



1664 - Dutch surrender New Amsterdam (NY) to 300 English soldiers



I think you need to read up on your history. The Dutch record in their colonies was simply revolting.



DutchCrusader



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Back on topic.



In 2012 Turkey and the Netherlands celebrate 400 years of diplomatic relations. There will be many expositions and festivities in both countries. One of the highlights will be the exposition (Istanbul) of paintings of old Dutch masters. A great opportunity to see marvellous paintings that are seldom exhibited - it's a short and inexpensive trip to Istanbul!



If you are interested in this exhibition and possibly the other celebrations: type these words in Google " turkije nederland 400 jaar " and read the translations.



P.S. I'll be pleased to reply to your questions!

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Dalartokat in msg 4: "DC....you can see on http://www.mymerhaba.com under "Exhibits at Istanbul Modern" regarding the celebrations. Even better if people are planning to go to Istanbul before May 6th to see for themselves."



suehowlittle


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Mess 13:



I was not pontificating about historical facts except that I was surprised that it was the Dutch who went to the Americas and began to drain the swamps!



I am simply enjoying learning about the history of New York via the research of Edwin Rutherford when he wrote the book New York.



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