New revelations on the Festival 11 issue

scruff


Joined: 15/07/2008
Posts: 1070

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 19:01

I have noticed that members appear to have lost interest in this very important issue.

Hot of the Press on the other board. http://northerncyprus.createforumhosting.com/

Maybe you should read the new revelations from the 'horses mouth'. Link to the thread is below.



http://northerncyprus.createforumhosting.com/new-threads-on-gyp44-about-ch-issue-t30415-100.html



Performance fees offered by a member of the Festival 11 committee to a local performer to be 'hidden' as expenses, plus a signficant response from Cheshire Home UK. charity management. This is an email response just received & it appears that the original complaints have now been escalated upwards in the UK. hierarchy. It is very clear that they will not allow this issue to be swept under the carpet, unlike the local management, the Police & a n others wish.

Also on the same thread earlier details supplied by Tony Elkin in answer to questions posed about the 'expenses'. These details were not revealed on Cyprus44 by TE

scruff


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Posts: 1070

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 19:02

continued.

Please note that I am member scruff & not Stubbs1 & I am an administrator on the other board as well as a member here.

scruff


Joined: 15/07/2008
Posts: 1070

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 19:30

Sorry I posted the wrong link to the relevant thread in msg 1 above.

This is the correct link.



http://northerncyprus.createforumhosting.com/cheshire-home-festival-11-t30132.html

ranger5


Joined: 29/03/2011
Posts: 151

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 20:00

Scruff, I am not joining your forum just to read an item about CH. If you have something to tell us put it on this forum

tomsteel


Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 482

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 20:26

Cannot even access it and I joined.

Geoff1131


Joined: 12/07/2007
Posts: 276

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 20:37

I tried to join and got a message to say user name and password were already allocated ( so i must have joined before?) then tried to log in and was told that i had entered an incorrect user name/password. Got fed up and came back here!

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 21:07

Could someone copy and paste it ?

eyebob


Joined: 22/06/2010
Posts: 143

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 21:25

Sneaky way to get someone to join a 2nd rate board,if you have anything new to write,put it on here, otherwise, just GO AWAY!

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 21:38

Message 1:

'I have noticed that members appear to have lost interest in this very important issue.'



I wonder why that would be then? Over exposure comes to mind.

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 21:40

Scruff



If the revelations are so important, then just cut and paste them so that we can read them on here.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 21:42

AJ,



Over exposure of something that some keep trying to cover up and hope that it goes away.



Which side of the fence are you sitting on now, those seeking the truth and perhaps justice or ??????

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 22:11

GinaC

I really do not care one iota about this particular subject. I bought my tickets to festival11 without even knowing who the benefactors were or should have been, I just wanted a couple of good nights out.

It seems as though everyone bar the supposed benefactors are creating one big stink that everyone knows will not be resolved by anyone else but Cheshire Homes. If there is a festival12 then I am more than willing to spend my money on tickets regardless of who the intended benefactors are.

So that hopefully explains to you 'which side of the fence' I sit on.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 22:50

Fair enough AJ so you got what you paid for and of course that is all that matters isn't it ?



And yes I agree with you it is up to Cheshire homes to sort it out and from what I hear UK Cheshire homes are now going to be doing just that. It was a good job that some care about this charity enough to do what they feel was right and proper rather than sitting on ones bum and doing nothing and in some quarters trying to ssshhhh it up.



Glad you enjoyed your couple of good nights out, let's hope those that depend on Cheshire homes also get some benefit from the money you paid.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 23:15

All I saw were character assassinations... which is very poor form on an open forum. Still what goes around comes around.

Systematic gossiping and downright speculation are not a substitute for information.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 23:19

Groucho you are so right, what has been said on an open forum cannot be undone.

EamonnMc


Joined: 18/06/2010
Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 23:27

Nothing wrong with just paying for your tickets and enjoying the show. Most people don't really care who or what benefits from the profits, But those who do care have a right to transparency from those who collect their cash.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
05/03/2012 23:57

"those who do care have a right to transparency from those who collect their cash"

They may well do but this forum is not nor ever has been the right place for this. This witch hunt has no place on this forum and some of the libellous statements are outrageous.

The attacks on here are no better than a campaign of poison pen letters. I only hope those who see fit to give air to their spleen in this way don't fall out with the rest of this baying mob... or they'll know what it's like to have your good name and reputation crucified in public.

For the record, I didn't go, I don't have any connection with the organisers or the charity and I hope that future events are better controlled. Do I think it was as good as it could be? No. Should somebody be treated in the manner we see here? No. Those who seek to use innuendo and gossip as a means of communication are scoundrels.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
06/03/2012 00:10

As a "scoundrel" could someone please explain where

approx 3/4s of the money went ?

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
06/03/2012 00:21

So you admit that you seek to use innuendo and gossip as a means of communication?

EamonnMc


Joined: 18/06/2010
Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
06/03/2012 00:31

One man's scoundrel is another man's hero.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
06/03/2012 03:15

I have also tried to access this other board and thought I was a member, but rejected. I am afraid I cannot keep remembering all my different passwords, and being away from home I do not have access to other records. however, I would like to know (but best I ask people direct, I think). I am sure many others here would like to know, although.....

as far as I am aware the connection with Cheshire Homes is U.K is not quite the same as branches in U.K itself. The Cheshire Home does not get funding from U.K even though the matter was discussed a couple of years ago. I believe there were some snags that were not ironed out. so in one sense the U.K has little jurisdiction over here. However, I cannot help but keep thinking that people such as a High Court Judge and a retired Bank manager, both of high esteem in the community should be respected for the decisions they made. I am also sure that if there is more they wish known, they will share it.

Groucho



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Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
06/03/2012 06:52

"One man's scoundrel is another man's hero"

No he's not...

astro941


Joined: 22/05/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
06/03/2012 07:19

Marion, Are you refering to a High Court Judge and a retired bank manager from TRNC with high esteem in the same sentence? Well I am sorry because the corrupt system displaying itself by the rank and gross intimidation of Pauline Read by supposedly highly esteemed persons, in my view, should be challenged by the afore mentioned highly respected persons.



I have watched the progress of the open debate regarding the Leonard Cheshire home here and kept silent. I used to work for Leonard Cheshire, if he was alive he would have kicked the backsides of the management by personally visiting to check that everything was ok. It grieves me that people misuse and bandy around the name of a great and gracious man and purport to be a Cheshire Home, lets get it straigh the home here is run on the lines of a UK Cheshire home. It is debateable as to wether Cheshire homes in the UK is still a charity or a business. The aims of enabling people with disabilities is laudable (cont)

astro941


Joined: 22/05/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
06/03/2012 07:26

but it does not mean that they are highly esteemed, the only people who perhaps deserve that acolade are the direct, hands on care workers and volunteers. This debacle and saga of missing monies is not only dragging the name of Leonard Cheshire VC through the mud but it also highlights the poor management and supervision of large amounts of money. In my view this is gross iresponsibility and negligence and the negligent and iresponsible are still avoiding their responsibilities. Some of the residents of the home may have spinal injuries but it looks like many able bodied persons emulate this.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
06/03/2012 09:19

Well said astro941, I very much share your views.