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pollymarples
Joined: 08/08/2010 Posts: 1778
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 15:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 37 in Discussion |
| He wants locking up, oh I forgot he is ....lol It must be heartbreaking for all the victims. I wish more was being done to help you. |
SuziSuz
Joined: 13/07/2010 Posts: 135
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 15:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 37 in Discussion |
| We have been led to believe that Robb's appeal is March 12, It was supposed to be 29th Feb, but the judge presiding over the appeal was unavailable due to a family emergency. |
britvic
Joined: 05/09/2008 Posts: 3039
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 16:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 37 in Discussion |
| Seeing those photo's really brings it home, all of those poor people who will never own their paid for Villas. My heart goes out to each and everyone of the victims of Armarata. |
dizzycows
Joined: 12/05/2009 Posts: 2736
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 16:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 37 in Discussion |
| Just a question regarding some of those villas, has any of the Armarata valley victims gone on and finished the villas their selves? As some of them look like they have been finished and some are having work done on them... Noticed this when over last Dec, but the finished ones were mostly around the top of the complex .... |
SuziSuz
Joined: 13/07/2010 Posts: 135
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 16:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 37 in Discussion |
| There is no infrastructure there, no utilities, nothing, this goes further to prove that the whole thing was a scam from the start. Its just land with shells on it. It will cost hundreds of thousands to get any kind of infrastructure on the site. The site itself is crumbling underfoot |
carian
Joined: 13/03/2009 Posts: 336
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 16:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 37 in Discussion |
| Re message 5 - work stopped again in 2008 after a few months, there is only one villa that has been finished which is on the road by the entrance to Amaranta. |
yrret
Joined: 17/08/2010 Posts: 761
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 16:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 37 in Discussion |
| Would be a nice gesture from the Gov if they just seized the land, gave kocans to all the buyers (not sure how they would handle the double sold plots, maybe a joint kocan) with defered tax payment only when all services supplied, and at least the owners could decide a little of their own fate. If the Gov put in the infrastructure, then the houses could potentially become liveable in the future, or at least some could sell for what they can and at least have some closure to the matter. As a worst case, at least each would have the kocan for the land, maybe worth having for the future (kids/grandkids etc). |
rowlo
Joined: 12/10/2008 Posts: 4796
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 16:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 37 in Discussion |
| dizzy, they only look finished from the road , they have no windows or doors in them , they are just shells . he should rot in jail for what he did . |
dizzycows
Joined: 12/05/2009 Posts: 2736
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 18:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 37 in Discussion |
| Such a shame, poor people ... ... so many too... |
philbailey
Joined: 17/01/2011 Posts: 3534
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 18:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 37 in Discussion |
| So no one blames the government a criminal on the run gets citzenship then scams people He was just doing what scammers have done for years 18 months in nick for how much ? the victims should thank the ROC |
fryingpan
Joined: 10/01/2012 Posts: 80
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 18:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 37 in Discussion |
| phil,surely your not blaming ROC for the length of his sentence,or have i read you wrong?? |
philbailey
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Message Posted: 07/03/2012 18:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 37 in Discussion |
| Msg 12, all I am saying is who jailed him ? |
fryingpan
Joined: 10/01/2012 Posts: 80
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 18:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 37 in Discussion |
| all im saying is....who should have jailed him first |
philbailey
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Message Posted: 07/03/2012 18:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 37 in Discussion |
| Msg 14 , is he still got citzenship in N/Cyprus ? |
SuziSuz
Joined: 13/07/2010 Posts: 135
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 20:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 37 in Discussion |
| as far as we know he is persona non grata both in the TRNC and Thailand |
philbailey
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Message Posted: 07/03/2012 20:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 37 in Discussion |
| Is his company still going ? or are his partners still there ? |
SuziSuz
Joined: 13/07/2010 Posts: 135
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 37 in Discussion |
| yes Tahir Soycan, Akan Kursat and Kutsel Tokatlıoğlu are still there and to our knowledge still wanted by ROC |
philbailey
Joined: 17/01/2011 Posts: 3534
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 37 in Discussion |
| So why no problems for them msg 18 corruption ? |
SuziSuz
Joined: 13/07/2010 Posts: 135
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 37 in Discussion |
| because the TRNC legal system fails to act against them as Directors of AGA and yes brown paper envelopes speak volumes........ |
Bradus
Joined: 25/02/2007 Posts: 2641
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 37 in Discussion |
| It is very easy to blame Robb. Whilst he needs to be held accountable for his actions, it is too easy to divert all the blame in his direction and forget that such a scam could never have been committed without the knowledge and support of his shareholders, the Estate Agents and the Advocates. Government departments also need to shoulder responsibility for allowing the build without the proper permissions, regulations and permits being in place. That such a huge scam can be perpetrated with no accountability being laid, at the hands of the known culprits, is beyond belief. It says much about the TRNC Government who appear to have been negligent or dismissive in their duties and a legal system that can't support victims to seek justice. Hopefully support and condemnation will come from other outside agencies. If there is one thing the TRNC excels in, it must be bad publicity. |
philbailey
Joined: 17/01/2011 Posts: 3534
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 37 in Discussion |
| msg21, you cynic |
Bradus
Joined: 25/02/2007 Posts: 2641
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 37 in Discussion |
| But an honest one Phil? |
philbailey
Joined: 17/01/2011 Posts: 3534
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 37 in Discussion |
| Msg 23 , you need to tint your glasses .? |
Bradus
Joined: 25/02/2007 Posts: 2641
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 37 in Discussion |
| Phil, I'll stick to Rose wine rather than wear the glasses!! |
philbailey
Joined: 17/01/2011 Posts: 3534
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 37 in Discussion |
| msg 25, lol nearly split my beer enjoy the vino |
SuziSuz
Joined: 13/07/2010 Posts: 135
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 37 in Discussion |
| Robb will never answer for his crimes in the TRNC he has greased too many palms, but maybe just maybe he will get his just desserts elsewhere |
timaloy
Joined: 30/06/2011 Posts: 171
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 37 in Discussion |
| maybe roc will jail, him |
philbailey
Joined: 17/01/2011 Posts: 3534
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 37 in Discussion |
| Msg 28 , he is in an ROC jail a little knowledge is a dangerous thing have you bought a property yet ???? |
Bradus
Joined: 25/02/2007 Posts: 2641
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 21:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 37 in Discussion |
| Suzisuz, What are you hoping will happen? |
timaloy
Joined: 30/06/2011 Posts: 171
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 22:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 37 in Discussion |
| msg 29 please read up and study the meaning of sarcasm |
SuziSuz
Joined: 13/07/2010 Posts: 135
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 22:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 37 in Discussion |
| perhaps maybe the TRNC gov will realise what sort of advert that Amaranta is for the TRNC and take over, but thats is pigs flying, who knows, I will never enter the TRNC again for fear of arrest |
TRNCvictim
Joined: 17/08/2010 Posts: 1417
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 22:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 37 in Discussion |
| Yes Bradus there are many more accountable :-( and always the same names circles within circles wheels within wheels eh! Please don't spill your beer philbailey! let the honest among us be honest... From Unwins Estate Agents, to Gurken & Gurken to Talat & his son Akan Kursat, to Munir Akil, to every member of the TRNC Government who allowed this scam to take place and the still to be brought to justice Tahir Soycan, Akan & Talat Kursat & Kutsel Tokatloglu................ Everyone needs to be aware of their names and the many more wolves in sheeps clothing living in La La Land! As for Government Departments being "negligent" Bradus please don't make me laugh! (It isn't funny)! I am still awaiting my refund from Mark & Hayran Unwins cut of my money which is £4215.00 this wonderful Estate Agent still owes me for something they sold me and I have never received! I am just one victim! They must owe millions! How the hell do they sleep at night? Sing about a hole in th |
timaloy
Joined: 30/06/2011 Posts: 171
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 22:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 37 in Discussion |
| trnc victim...to the point and also correct,there is non so blind than those who choose not to see... |
Quarmby
Joined: 15/09/2008 Posts: 975
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 22:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 37 in Discussion |
| Were the Turkish army also to blame?, I remember when he was building properties in Catalkoy behind the cemetry, the army signs were still left in the gardens of the properties, surely the army must have known what was going on but did nothing. What were people thinking buying property on army land! |
spider
Joined: 03/01/2009 Posts: 5527
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 23:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 37 in Discussion |
| I just found this link too . http://northcyprusfreepress.com/2009/10/31/trnc-koop-bank-seeks-to-make-people-homeless/ A long time ago but some good reading. The property problems here are outrageous. Its my view that the government need to act '' Now'' rather then later ! Because their later seems to be '' Never ' ! And who is fighting to wake the government up so far. One woman and a few good supporters. Its about time everyone had their say ! Spider,X Spider,X |
TRNCvictim
Joined: 17/08/2010 Posts: 1417
Message Posted: 07/03/2012 23:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 37 in Discussion |
| Quarmby I think your talking about Hz Omer, the pictures are of Amaranta Valley Of course the Turkish Army knew! Just to finish my sentence in mess 33 There are holes in many, many buckets in La La Land! timaloy for some reason recently I feel if "they are blind now, they will never see" |
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