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elko2



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11/03/2012 00:01

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Please enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YSdP6E7kSI

He is wasting his time. The smart way is to challenge them on legal points as I always do.

ismet



yenibob


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11/03/2012 06:56

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The smart thing to do is to stay within the speed limit.....No Fines.........Less Fatal Accidents!



A dead Smart A**E is just as dead!



racoonchic



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11/03/2012 08:22

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elko..a question if i may.. ive been quoted 150 stg an hour for legal fees working off some kind of timer clock. is that realistic for north cyprus.. seems excesive to me..x



Dillon


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11/03/2012 08:41

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@Yenibob: Exactly right! the subject in the OP link is far removed from the status of a 'poor fellow'? he comes across to me as a narcissistic jobsworth, seeking his 15 minutes of fame.



dippersgirl



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11/03/2012 10:34

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He is tenacious, yes and obviously not poor

in time or money



twaddle


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11/03/2012 11:10

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The man is a total fool! He has admitted that he was travelling over the speed limit. End of story! Excess speed is an absolute offence. The fact that he was unaware of the change in speed limit from 40 to 30 is evidence of his lack of observation (good job there was no child crossing the road) His whole grievance seems to stem from the fact that he disagrees with the 30MPH speed limit. Once he has accepted that the speed limit was broken, he would have been well advised to leave it at that instead of ratcheting up his own costs. He is the same as many other motorists on our roads that think that the law does not apply to them because they are more intelligent and better drivers than the rest of the populace. What a pillock!!!



RadioAngel


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11/03/2012 12:41

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So the most helpful member when he breaks the speed limit challenges them on legal points ? How about just not speeding and putting other peoples lives at risk ? That would be really 'helpful' and maybe take some of the carnage off the roads. What poor fellow ?????



elko2



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11/03/2012 22:48

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Radioangel,

If I did not take any notice of the speed cameras I would be collecting hundreds of tickets in the last few years. this is not the case. However I intend to put a few wrongs right through my actions in court. Here are a few points that needs correcting:

1. A picture from the camera should be readily available. As it stands you can see it only at restricted times in Nicosia after the payment of a fee. Once the case is referred to courts you are not allowed to see it at all. You would not know anything about "Natural Justice" and the right to see all evidence before a trial, or would you?

2. If the camera develops a fault, there is no precaution to check them like double picture and lines in the road.

3. There is no laid down rules about proper calibration of these devices.

4. There is no legal foundation for the use of these devices so that necessary precautions are specified in the law.



So you can say that I am trying to get these things put right for the benefit of the public in general.

Are you prepared to discuss these points or only interested in a flippant reply?

ismet



elko2



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11/03/2012 23:15

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msg. 3, Racoonchic,

Most lawyers that I know charge by the kind of work they do rather than by the hour. However I think it makes common sense to charge by the hour. As for the hourly rate, its not for me to decide and I have no idea about the going rate.

ismet



rigsby


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Message Posted:
11/03/2012 23:45

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I am with twaddle on this one.



Groucho



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12/03/2012 07:26

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It seems hubris is not restricted to Ancient Greeks!



deputydawg


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12/03/2012 14:58

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A TRNC advocate died at the age of 69 and complained to Gabriel "what happened to my 3 score years and ten?" Gabriel replied that according to his "charge out time records" he was 242 years of age.



elko2



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13/03/2012 13:18

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Deputy,

Do you happen to know at whose expense did he celebrated his double centenary? I bet they were all expats

The locals never pay by the hour.

ismet



deputydawg


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13/03/2012 18:14

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elko 2. Of course it was only a joke but there is maybe some truth within. For example, many lawyers/advocates who act as general practitioners and do not specialise in one area of law will spend much time "reading" to become current with their knowledge before acting. Some will deem this to be "productive time" and bill their clients. Thus instructing a lawyer who is a specialist in the area of concern to the client can often be the best option. My only area of some expertise was "Shrievalty" which worked well for me as my Senior Partner admitted that he and his partners could all write on the back of one postage stamp what they knew with regard to Shrievalty law and he would still have room to sign it.



Smity



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13/03/2012 19:17

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Old adage

You can't beat the system they just tie you up in knots, or bamboozle you with text



I can see why, it is the injustice again big brother is watching



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