[ QUIZ-7 ] One family ruled in three Kingdoms

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 14:53

1 : The first poster with the right answer in this thread wins a free ticket for the next Medieval Cyprus Fellowship lecture: "The Secrets of St Hilarion Castle!" (Wednesday, February 24, 2.30 pm, doors open 2 pm, venue: Denizhan Bar & Restaurant, Alsancak).



2 : Photograph here (click link): http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/040.jpg

3 : Quiz question-7: Later in history the family ruled even three Kingdoms - which ones?

4 : Hint-1 (may follow...): "-"

5 : Answers before 8 pm, Monday, February 15, 2010.



(Previous) winners: Hatty: 2x , Clarissa2 1x, No1Doyen: 1x (thomarge: 1/3 pt)



If you haven't participated in the previous Quizzes yet want to test your knowledge...

Quiz-1: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/30624.asp

Quiz-2: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/30648.asp

Quiz-3: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/30658.asp

Quiz-4: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/30687.asp

Quiz-5: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/30694.asp

Quiz-6: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/30706.asp

mamachina


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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 15:13

Lusignans



1st arms are mixed Jerusalem, Lesser Armenia and Cyprus - cross of Jerusalem in L corner, lion of cyprus with bars on rightcorner and then swapped

2nd shield is arms of Jerusalem

3rd Lion of cyprus over the bars of Lusignan



Countries the Lusignans were kings of were Jerusalem, Clicia (lesser Armenia) and Cyprus

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 15:22

The Kingdoms of Jerusalem and of Cyprus and the Kingdom of Cilicia,

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 15:37

Warning for Moderator No1Doyen: I've made a screenshot of this thread so if you delete mamachina's post I can prove you did it...

P.S. I fear you are capable of any cyber crime to win this quiz!

Hatty


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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 15:37

I think the coats of arms are as follows - left to right:-



1 - House of Lusignan - posssibly Guy de Lusignan

2 - Kings of Jerusalem - possibly Godfrey of Bouillon

3 - Kings of Cyprus and Jerusalem - possibly Henry II of Jerusalem and Henry II of Cyprus - Henri de Lusignan

mamachina


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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 15:45

Oh dear, Hans, just realised I spelled Cilicia without its first "i" - sorry!!!!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 16:22

Sorry Mamichina - we only take your first answer )



......P.S. I fear you are capable of any cyber crime to win this quiz! .... Shame on you Hans for assuming I would do anything to win.



I'm in the lead with 3 points now!! )

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 16:48

RE msg 7, No1Doyen: (...) Sorry Mamichina - we only take your first answer (...)

=> "We"..?! Who is "we"..?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 16:50

Me and you Hans - nudge nudge, wink wink )

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 19:49

Ha! This time I have won - all answers in Quiz-7 are wrong. There has never been a King of Jerusalem, Cyprus AND Lesser Armenia (Cilicia, around now Mersin in now Turkey). The Kings of the Lusignan houses in Cyprus (the first and the second, when the male line in the first died out) have always remained claimants to the throne of Jerusalem, which was lost when Guy de Lusignan was dethroned (1188).

However there has been Kings of Lesser Armenia from the Cyprus Lusignan house. Here you see their shield: http://is.gd/8rpb3 (As Crusader princes in the Latin East, the Lusignans soon had connections with the Hethumid rulers of the Kingdom of Cilicia, which they inherited through marriage in the mid-14th century).

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DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 19:56

[ continued]

Now for the shields in the first post ( http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/040.jpg ) - you can still see them in Bellapais Abbey at a white marble lintel above the main entrance; they bear the arms (left to right) of the Kings of Cyprus and Jerusalem, the Kings of Jerusalem and the House of Lusignan (originating in France, near Poitou, where they never were Kings).

(Previous) winners: Hatty: 2x , Clarissa2 1x, No1Doyen: 1x (thomarge: 1/3 pt).

By the way, in mesg 10: http://is.gd/8rpb3 : Arms of Cilicia under the Lusignans: note how they combined the arms of Cilicia (left in their shield and right in the graphic) under the Hethumids and those of Lusignan and Jerusalem.

Hatty


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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 19:56

1 point to you the Hans - well done

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 20:03

RE msg 5, Hatty: (...) 2 - Kings of Jerusalem - possibly Godfrey of Bouillon (...)

=> Godfrey of Bouillon (medieval French: Godefroid de Bouillon, Duke of Lower Lorraine) never was King of Jerusalem. He only accepted the title "Protector of the Holy Sepulchre". His brother Baldwin (medieval French: Bauduin) succeeded him as ruler of Jerusalem and became the first King of the occupied territory, known as the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 21:10

1point to you Hans - you still behind me though, with 2

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 21:26

This is the score after 7 quizzes: Winners: Hatty: 2x , Clarissa2 1x, No1Doyen: 1x - (thomarge: 1/3 pt). People, don't believe what Bill writes in the Quiz-threads - he's just a know-it-all moderator hence power-hungry.