Cheshire Homes announcement

Marion


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Message Posted:
20/01/2012 16:25

I have been asked to make the following public knowledge. This should appear in Cyprus Today tomorrow, but too late for this week;'s edition of The Star. "It is announced as from the 19th January that the Cheshire Home Committee are disassociated from Richarde Currie and Hal Crompton and that they are not to undertake any fund raising activities in the name of Cheshire Home. Anyone who wants to help Cheshire Homes in any way whatsoever is asked to contact the Executive Committee via Dr.Ali Toker, telephone number 0392 815 3771.

Anyone wishing to give a donation to the home are asked to give it directly to the Home which will issue an official receipt .

It is further announced that the shop in the heart of Kyrenia near the Beyti Café is closed until further notice and that the event advertised for the 25th January is cancelled." (this is exactly as dictated to me by the Committee at the Home.

Tulips


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Message Posted:
20/01/2012 18:57

Thanks for the information Marion, duly noted.......

Marion


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Message Posted:
20/01/2012 18:58

Please back up so this is not missed by anyone who had put the 25th in their diary.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
20/01/2012 19:01

Msg1, has this anything to do

with that concert?

Carndi


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Posts: 613

Message Posted:
20/01/2012 19:37

Marion. As it was I, who, at the request of Richard Currie on behalf of the Cheshire Homes, arranged for him to contact the Irish dancers who were willing to come for the festival later in the year.

As they have not heard from Mr Currey or the Cheshire Homes since before Christmas can I now contact my family and tell them the this is cancelled ?

Marion


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Message Posted:
20/01/2012 19:53

Message 5m, please contact me. Or give me your e mail or phone number. You can contact me at marionstuart.cyprusstar@hotmail.com

If you had read Cyprus today the other week Ann Canal[p- re-portred that this year's Festival was for the benefit of many charities, not just Cheshire Homes, so it is doubtful you would have heard from them.

Marion


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Message Posted:
20/01/2012 19:54

Sorry, anothywer noote to message 5,. (sorry my touch typing is extra bad in the ddark) You could try contactingone of the three members of the committee for Festival 12, that is Richard Currie Hal Crompton or tony Woods.

valarius


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Posts: 356

Message Posted:
20/01/2012 23:16

Hurray someone has woken up to what they are up to, about time to.

philbailey


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Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 01:41

Was Hal the bloke wrongly accused

of taking a load of money of OAPs



And was cleared by the courts?

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 02:07

Sounds to me like the" wise guys" have done their bit and taken advantage of the generosity of many ! Again, and that is not the fault of goodhearted people, committee included, who try to help people !

Marion


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Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 14:23

Sorry EamonnMc I think I am havingh a bad day. Could you explain what you mean. I think I am brain dead due to the freezing cold conditions of the last couple of days

snakes



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Message Posted:
21/01/2012 16:59

If i am reading between the lines correctly (forgive me if i am wrong) does this mean scullduggary has taken place ? If not, why would a registered upstanding charity such as Cheshire Homes sever any connections with these men ! I remember Lee Hickens (Johnny Lee) being treated particularly badly and was very disturbed and upset about something after Festival 2010 which I was proud to play for ! Regards Barry

Marion


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Message Posted:
21/01/2012 17:12

Hey Snakes. As they say in 'yes Minister'. You could say that, but I could not possibly comment.'

Suffice it to say that more info will follow as figures for the Festival have not yet been proven, but hopefully in a week all will be revealed. In the mean time, suffice it to say that the Cheshire Homes are disappointed with many aspects of Festival 11 , consequently the public statement. By the way, when you say Johnny lee was disturbed - about what? The Festival The Home or the Festival 11 committee? ,

philbailey


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Message Posted:
21/01/2012 17:20

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/50103.asp



Is this about the same guy?

Marion


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Message Posted:
21/01/2012 17:27

Hal Crompton was on the committee of Festival 11 and also on the newer, smaller Festival 12 committee, and is the same person as referred to in the thread above.

snakes



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Posts: 1512

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 17:37

Marion ! he was also involved with 2010 also as he was charging about the place with a "walky talky" and his Mrs was back stage in the changing rooms doing a grand job !!! directing us to specific rooms ! regards Barry

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 17:38

Marion,



Sorry if my previous post was a bit obscure but, I think "Snakes" in msg 12 has deciphered my meaning.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
21/01/2012 17:40

Msg 16 "a grand job"

now that is good pay

joandjelly


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Message Posted:
21/01/2012 18:36

I have to say I don't know any of the people named or have had anything to do with the Cheshire Home Charity but I am very surprised that yet another thread has been allowed to continue with supposition and speculation about individuals. Surely if the CH wanted to make a public statement they should have done it themselves (anything else is just hearsay in my view) or, at the very least, the thread should have been closed after post 1.

layby_lil



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Posts: 141

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 19:40

They must have done a press release..... Marion has a column in the Star, which is where any press release would have gone, if as she says in message 1 there had been time to get it in for the print deadline.

Did U see Cyprus today? looks like it carried only part of the same announcement, Charity Shop Shut 'till further notice, some "unauthorised?" event cancelled, Financial review taking place, Festival 11 Committee involved. Project Manager talking about "full disclosure".

Remind me when was this concert, last September? Bet they are scratching around trying to find where the money all went, do I alone smell another scam?? poo!!!

sharpknife


Joined: 11/01/2012
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 20:38

scam, scam, scam, scam, scam, scam, scam, scam

sorry, wrong key

spam, spam, spam, spam



Monty Pyhton Esq.

selpak


Joined: 15/12/2011
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 21:03

I was going to open this post with "i told you so"

I can recall being at the pia bella on a few occasions and i could never understand

why hal crompton or richard currie could never

look you in the eye when they both came round begging for our cash!



I of course knew full well why those two cretin's could not look me in the eye,

i had their card marked,oh yes i did and i do not care what Dutch Crusader says

that hal crompton was cleared of any wrong doing in court when he "supposedly"

appeared in court on theft charges against a very old couple who say Hal and his wife

robbed them of there life saving's,i now have the newspaper cutting of that accusation,

if any one would like to post it for me as i do not know how to do it then your welcome to it

and i can email it to you,dutch crusader,where is the evidence to back up your story?



I really do hope the police get involved in this one.

selpak


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Posts: 281

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 21:29

MSG10 Eamonnmc



Nice to see you have changed your tune from about 1 week ago !



EamonnMc





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Message Posted:

12/01/2012 23:26

Reply Message 25 of 27 in Discussion



The Lynch mob are testing the rope and have already done the jury ,judge and executioner bit.....happy days for them ! Funny, I may be old fashioned but, I like the justice system to be independent of the accusers.



Now your sounding like the lynch mod )))

selpak


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Posts: 281

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 21:45

read message ten and eleven http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/50103.asp



and the rest of the dutch crusader's posts and of course,"the rest is history" Repeating it's self !



It will bring a great big smile to your face as some people way back then had hal & dick's card's marked.



hal crompton the people's person



Where's all his backer's now,does something have your tongue's!

sharpknife


Joined: 11/01/2012
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 21:50

There's a hole in the bucket dear Lisa........a hole !!!!!!!!!



Hole ? More like a burst dam.



Ocam

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 23:01

Selpak, Msg 23,



The details posted by Marion in msg 1, is new information and hence my comments in msg 10....this situation is evolving and as a result, peoples opinions will tend to change based on the statement made by the Cheshire Home Committee. The previous thread you refer to was "Festival 11 - anyone know how much went to charity ? " and did not contain any statement from the Charity.

selpak


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Posts: 281

Message Posted:
21/01/2012 23:33

People with a little bit of common sense did not have to wait for CHC to disassociate them self from Richard Currie and Hal Crompton or wait for new information,THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL,we already knew the outcome,some stayed silent just as richard currie and hal crompton have stayed SILENT,im not saying that is an admission of guilt but if a person is innocent you would think they would make a statement to defend them self or admit their guilt or mis managment !



Just to be on the safe side i may well be instructing a lawyer and accountant to make an appointment to view the past 3 years account's of cheshire home,after all it is a charity and transparacy is paramount is it not?



The money i have given to this charity could of bought me 100 bottle's of sherry i am sure !

Marion


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Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
22/01/2012 00:13

Please Selpak, I can assure you that Cheshire Homes as all the registered charities here are as transparent as they can be, and you would not need to instruct a lawyer or an accountant to talk to them about past accounts. The Festival. 11 committee and monies was separate from the regular Cheshire Home committee and accounts. this thread is not to throw stones, but as someone correctly assumed the reason I am putting the message here is because it was too late to go in The Star. cyprus Today were asked to put in the same announcement, but they have used slightly different words. The main concern was to ensure that anyone who had the 25th in their diary would not waste their time. The matter of final results of Festival ll, will, as I said earlier be announced fairlyt soon. this is NOT a scam as I was asked to put the message on here on behalf of the Home.

philbailey


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Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
22/01/2012 15:53

How much was raised from the concert?

Marion


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Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
22/01/2012 19:17

That is what everyone is waiting to hear, and the sub committee which dealt with the Festival, - less Richard and Hal who resigned, are currently going through the paper work to give the final figures to everyone who is waiting to hear. And it was not just a concert, it was several event,s not all of which made the money expected due to cancellations (weather!) and unexpectedly small numbers. so the money is to do with the entire Festival, NOT just the one very popular concert.

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
22/01/2012 19:55

I would have thought ALL the events made at least a small profit......and the Amphitheatre event would have made a small FORTUNE .....

japeal



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Posts: 1052

Message Posted:
22/01/2012 20:33

A fair profit should have been made, weather only affected a few events. Lets wait and see. To be fair shows I attended were very good and very good numbers were at the shows.

selpak


Joined: 15/12/2011
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
22/01/2012 20:49

I suppose hal crompton and dick could call them self professional charity collector's and pay them self huge fee's,maybe that could explain everything !

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
22/01/2012 20:52

I would be very disappointed if that was the case as here at BRTK we gave them lots of FREE publicity on radio and TV for both festival 10 and 11. Was this the arrangement they had with Cheshire Homes ?

islandgirl


Joined: 12/09/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
22/01/2012 21:10

I don't know what has happened here but it would appear some names have been "discoloured" if not blackened. I do hope there is IRREFUTABLE evidence of this and not just heresay, speculation and conjecture.

erolz


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Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
22/01/2012 21:25

Who are you Selpak ?

joandjelly


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Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 12:14

Islandgirl my thoughts exactly but the moderators apparently do not give a damn in this instance. Very disappointing especially when they seem to jump on threads speculating about a certain Estate Agent.

Marion


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Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 12:18

this thread is solely tomake an announcement from Cheshire Homes at their request, and I am sure the moderators realise this and that any postings of accusations against any individuals are seemingly without evidence. Everyone is innocent until proved guilty. What may ensue later is pure |(or impure) conjecture. The important aspect to this thread is that Cyprus 44 readers are aware of Cheshire Home's announcement. No doubt more statements will ofllow about Festival 11 once figures have been duly analysed.

sharpknife


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Posts: 30

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 12:47

"It is announced as from the 19th January that the Cheshire Home Committee are disassociated from Richard Currie and Hal Crompton and that they are not to undertake any fund raising activities in the name of Cheshire Home..." Msg 1



Then the Charity shop shuts it's doors until further notice?



Pity Cheshire Home did not give a reason for it, what do you think it might be msg 35/37....? The weather ?



Ocam

Marion


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Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 13:39

You will have to be patient a little longer to discover the reason. meanwhile assumptions may well be wrong. One thing that IS sad is that Cyprus Today did not publish the full statement as drawn up by the Executive committee of the Home - but I guess they had their reasons, and it could be that assumptions there may also take place.

But as I keep saying, I have been informed by the most reliable sources in this that the information WILL be forthcoming and soon.

islandgirl


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Posts: 302

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 15:35

It is a shame they went off "half cocked" in the first place.

joandjelly


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Message Posted:
23/01/2012 16:06

Msg 39 people should not be left to "think" about the reasons (i.e. speculate, insinuate, etc). Facts need to be stated. My point is that the admins are quick to jump on these kinds of rumour-mongering threads but only in certain cases it would seem.

Millwall123


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Posts: 61

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 16:25

as the new boy I've no idea what's going on but it's like being in a room of strangers who are all having a go at each other.



It's rivetting and admin........don't you dare!

Marion


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Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 17:41

hey message 43, my dad was a Millwall supporter, and as I like your thinking, I could become one of yours.

erolz


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Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 18:00

Millwall123 whilst this thread may represent rivetting entertainment for those like you who are strangers to it all, please do not forget that this 'entertainment' is about real people with real lives, who's names are being bandied around in this thread and linked with implied improprietary by some here who at the same time themselves hide behind the semi annonimity that this forum offers them.

So whilst it may be rivetting entertainment for you , for those being named here I have no doubt it is far from such for them.

dalartokat


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Posts: 734

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 18:52

erolz...Message 45...surely then all the more reason for the thread to run the message it was asked to post, then close until further information could be given.

Marion


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Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 18:55

that is true , ero.l, but people are getting a little desperate for answers about the festival monies, and that is why the accusations and assumptions are flying. It might help everyone if the people concerned were to post something on here to help people understand the long silence. I am doing my best with anofficial line from the Home, but I can understand how it must be 'rivetting entertainment' which as you quite rrightly point out concerns real people. But it also concerns the reputation of a reputable charity. So, answers are essential a.s.a.p.

JohhnyLee


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Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 20:25

Re. message 12. Yes I was treated very badly, and in fact appalling.

I do not want to cause problems for the decent people of C.H. committee, especially Dr Ali and Rammy whom I found to be very genuine people.



Hal Crompton deliberatley tried to make my me look bad in a press realease. Instead of telling the truth.



I had been warned by many people not to be involved with him. (I wasn't really ,my dealings were mainly with Richard and the committee.)



But what they tried to do with me and I must add at a very crucial time for Ismail ,was so out of order.



People seemed to think that Ismail was benefitting from C.H. funds. But that was not so . The very opposite. I had to pay C.H. a pecentage , we had no problem with that if it meant that Jan and I could help Ismail legally.



I beleive I should tell the story. But I would not do it on a Forum.



I may be prepared to tell the media on the understanding that it was not edited. But Mr Crompton is involved with Cyprus Today.

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 20:49

Is Hal Compton still employed by Cyprus Today ?

Marion


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Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 21:12

Message 49 - I believe so.

To Johnny, why don't you 'talk ' to me, or put it in writing and let me have it by e mail. it is my opinion that everyone should be allowed to state the truth from their own angle and if others believe it to be untrue, then they too have the right. I am not sure that any media wants a slanging match through its pages but I am sure the Star will publish it if you wish. In order not to edit it or make a mistake, I guarantee you (graphics muck ups aside!) that it will be printed verbatim.

I know there havebeen many rumours flying around from day one of Ismael's arm as there have been about Festival 11. So it is up to you Johnny. Ot course the same offer is there for anyone who feels they want to make a statement. As long as it is true, then it is never lib el. I believe you, Johnny, have my e mail address>?>>>

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 22:56

Re message 48. I have just re read it. Cheshire Home took a PERCENTAGE of the money that people gave generously FOR ISMAİL ??????????



That just really cannot be correct. Cheshire Home is regulated by The Leonard Cheshire Disability in UK. Do they know about all of this ?

selpak


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Posts: 281

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 22:57

Seems so strange that crompton and currie do not make a comment on this forum,the 2 of them are so very quick to come on here when they wish to advertise party in the park or what ever it was called with johnnie hawkins playing and to advertise other function's they was both involved with.



I did hear a story that crompton/currie asked jonny lee to hand over the monies that had been collected for ismail and not to send monies that was urgently needed,i believe that may of been when jonny lee was running under the banner of cheshire home.



I think you jonny lee should take up the offer by marion to voice your side of the story after the damning story crompton put to the newspaper.

paddywack


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Posts: 959

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 23:08

Seems a lot of people have nothing else to do but to start rumours,castigate people and make innuendos about the North Cyprus community, would it not be better to wait for Cheshire Homes to make a statement.

Jonholmes


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 23:14

I thought that the opening post was the statement Paddywack, but like Millwall fan I have no idea what it is all about , I am guessing someone is being accused of diverting charity money?

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
23/01/2012 23:19

Cheshire Home DID make a statement please see below.







"It is announced as from the 19th January that the Cheshire Home Committee are disassociated from Richard Currie and Hal Crompton and that they are not to undertake any fund raising activities in the name of Cheshire Home. Anyone who wants to help Cheshire Homes in any way whatsoever is asked to contact the Executive Committee via Dr.Ali Toker, telephone number 0392 815 3771.



Anyone wishing to give a donation to the home are asked to give it directly to the Home which will issue an official receipt .



It is further announced that the shop in the heart of Kyrenia near the Beyti Café is closed until further notice and that the event advertised for the 25th January is cancelled."

Marion


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Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
24/01/2012 01:09

thanks Radio Angel. that was the announcement. and another announcement will be made either later this week or early next when the respective committees (i.e. those of festival 11 and the Executive Committee of Cheshire Homes) have met and finalised figures as given re Festival 11. In the mean time, everything is supposition and rumour. Hopefully when all is finalised the truth will be helpful to help people understand that all registered charities in North Cyprus are honourable and work within the law for the benefit of those they try to help. Sadly sometimes glitches occur and Festival 11 seems to have caused misunderstandings about the nature of the workings of charities. so, please, everyone, exercise patience a little longer, and if anyone has a story that is factual and needs to be shared, please share it with me so I can share it with the public . Write to marionstuart@hotmail.com (I am as much concerned over this as you folk out there, so let's all work together)

erolz


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Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
24/01/2012 02:27

This whole 'saga' has been running for years now with c44 a central playground where accusation and claim and counter claim is thrown around from one to the other.



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/41231.asp

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/43551.asp

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/43736.asp

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/48705.asp

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/71357.asp

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/43542.asp



If the above teaches anything it is that c44 is the LAST place any sane person would try and make a statement on if they had any desire to have truth come out. Annoymous posters, multi ID posters, people with personal grudgers, liers and manipulators abound as far as I can see.

ianwfs


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Posts: 563

Message Posted:
24/01/2012 11:48

I couldn't agree more, Erolz. People don't seem to realise that the law on posting on the likes off this is no different to publishing in a newspaper, and "Freedom of Speech" does not equate to "Say what you like"

Sooner or later, someone from this board is going to find themself in the courts, probably along with the management team who share "Editorial responsibility" much as a newspaper editor and journalist would.

Marion posted an item at the request of an organisation, which was obviously intended to mirror the same announcements in the newspapers. Would the papers have allowed the discussion to move the way it has?

The thread should have been closed after the announcement, or at least when it started to move into conjecture and personalities (one of whom wasn't even part of the announcement). To have allowed the thread to continue was a serious dereliction of duty by the management team, one which they could well live to regret.

Harold2555



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Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
24/01/2012 13:22

This thread is now closed.



we have kept a closee eye on this thread and have removed some messages. As far as the rest are concerned then there is speculation but no direct accusations. However it has served its purpose. Updates can go on a new thread when there is concrete news.