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fire starter


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04/11/2009 17:47

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A source of mine tells me hbpg been sidelined ??



As there is one organisation that is liaising with the government on behalf of British residents ( sod any non British residents ) so there is one voice for the said Nationality !!



A certain Lady has been made almost persona non gratis in the government offices....



And sunny Cyprus are not retuning her call so the hbpg web site can be updated !!



Are the &"% really goiung to sort the property issues out for all regardless of if you are a member or not ??



In the wors of one top member of the &"% we are only dealing with the top people in goverment !!



yea finger on the pulse at ground level knowing what issues other than is g & t on the table are at the top of the agenda ??



Brinsley


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04/11/2009 17:53

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Interpreting correctly '&"%' as the BRS, all I can say is that they are not fit for purpose! God help those that are in a right pickle with their properties!



Richard



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04/11/2009 18:39

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I heard this little gem yesterday at Pia Bella.



Why should another organisation come along puttings ots size 12's in when there is already somebody doing a good job. If the BRS were genuine about helping they would have teamed up with Marian and co to form a larger bridgehead with all of the available contacts.



Instead the BRS are going to split the fight against the builders, estate agents etc. It is as if they are sideing with the government so we never achieve our aims.



Strange isn't it, the BRS claim 1,200 members where as the HBPG numbers in the thousands of people helped.



So BRS prats think about what you are doing, liase with all involved otherwise we will end up with nothing.



Odd really, we were thinking of joining the "modernising" BRS but they can f*** that now.



fire starter


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04/11/2009 18:42

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Glory seekers that achieve very little just look how they are split over the memorial due to be unveiled on Sunday..... and mr day will say we are liasing at the top levels and jo blogs will reply can you help on a personal one to one level ?



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04/11/2009 19:10

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The British disease strikes again - divide and conquer.

Where have the BRS been these last five years?



Brinsley


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04/11/2009 19:23

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China!



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04/11/2009 19:35

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RE msg 1, fire_starter (...) on behalf of British residents ( sod any non British residents ) (...)

=> I'm still very proud to be the first non-British (associated) member of the BRS.



girne 29


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04/11/2009 19:35

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'Where have the BRS been these last five years? '



Ans- Not rocking the boat,

Now they have woken up and realised 'Something is rotten in the state of Denmark',what the HBPG knew years ago and has been trying work with the Govt to sort.

Better late than never but hope theY combine efforts with HBPG.



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Pride often comes before a fall !!!



DutchCrusader



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RE msg 9: "whats going on here?" http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/23161.asp | message 51 |



Aga Buyers A G


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05/11/2009 10:07

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Has any group no matter who/what they are actually achieved anything that has resulted in



a) The actual return of any monies owed (not just legal papers. ie Judgements)

b) The actual resolution of any problems, and resolutions that have actually come to fruition



It would be interesting to see a list of achievements of any one group - we don't think th.



We as ABAG met, Mr Soyer, Mr Avci, Mr Uzan, and Pervin Guerler (C of Police) but to name a few, but as in true TC Style all these people we have named and other high ranking officials that we haven't named nodded their heads and assured us of their personal assistance - perhaps this is what all the other groups experience.



The ministers and others are very good at making themselves look interested during a face to face meeting but as soon as one leaves and one shuts the door behind one, one is forgotten !!!!



but when it comes to the nitty gritty of forging a solution lets face it - they really don't give a damn !



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05/11/2009 10:33

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AGA Buyers AG, you're not suggesting that for the last 4 years HBPG has not only been wasting its time courting the government but they have also managed to sideline those who believe that visibly protesting would have achieved more results? If this is true then I find that most disturbing.



Aga Buyers A G


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05/11/2009 10:52

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no of course not



Marian and the HBPG have to be commended for what they have tried to acheive for EVERY group and not just individuals. They have worked tirelessly for all who have approached them.. All we ask is who has actually received a result whether it be from the PCO, BRS, HBPG or even the lowly ABAG - and we can catatgorically state we haven't got anywhere near a solution even though we have done verything that we have been told to do - especially as regards the PCO by collating ours and others details for them



All we are asking is



Is there anyone and we mean anyone who has got a solution



Perhaps that then will put a stop to the backbiting that occurs whether it be to the HBPG, BRS or anyone else - someone somewhere must have got somewhere !



Aga Buyers A G


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05/11/2009 10:58

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Actually we may not have got a solution yet, but the reaction and the horror seen in the faces of those at the Turkish Embassy when we turned up made the 2 days very worthwile !!!!



Roll on doing it again !!!!!



ABAG

xxxxx



malsancak


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05/11/2009 15:57

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I know that Marion, myself and several others started HBPG in September 2005 because of our own property problems so she should have at least sorted out her own problem.



malsancak


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05/11/2009 22:11

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There must be someone who has achieved a real solution with the help of HBPG, rather than just government promises! Ex-HBPG founder Stuart Hillard FRICS helped us solve our boundary problem.



wynyardman



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05/11/2009 22:32

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Hi all.



My pennyworth for what it is worth.



Marion Stokes is a woman of the highest integrity, who has fought tirelessly for distressed property owners in The TRNC.



She does not charge for her services, and somehow manages to produce remarkable results. Ask Santa Fe owners or management if it comes to that.



Now who could compete with that? A class act, in my humble opinion. Another TRNC ex pat generated baseless rumour?



wynyardman



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petez


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05/11/2009 22:52

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I hold Marian in very high regard, but I have been trying to contact her for over 6 months without success.



I can help the HBPG with their website (for free) if needed



wynyardman



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05/11/2009 22:59

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petez,



You can contact Marion via Cyprus B. They meet every few days.



wyn



petez


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05/11/2009 23:06

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Thanks Wyn..



but I dont know who Cyprus B is..



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