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zerochlor


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Towards the end of last year i found that i was able to apply for a grant from a very well known eco friendly green agency to help me promote my product in the market place.



With me not really being in a EU country so to speak,it has proved quite difficult for me,but it looks like i have overcome the major hurdle.



Today i have received a Email indicating that it is very possible that i will have secured this grant.



If the grant is given to me it will allow me to pass on a very large discount to new customers and previous customers who will be buying 1 years supply of zerochlor.



It will mean that i should be able to offer zerochlor at around 14 per bottle on a years supply.



So if any of you are thinking of a new pool contact and still useing chlorine,maybe its time to re-think and try zerochlor for 1 year and if you like it,carry on useing it ,if not,go back to chlorine.

Or if your pool company do not buy zerochlor,ask them for a labour only contract and supply your



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continued:



own chemicals,as im sure this kind of maintainance contract is possible.



Happy chlorine free swimming folks.



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Congratulations and well done Dave!

I will be changing over to Zerochlor & Splashpools when my current contract runs out soon.



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Hi Zerochlor,

Does this mean we have to buy a years supply in one go and if so, how many bottles is this?



zerochlor


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Hi Bblondie

Im not sure of the size of your pool,so i cant tell you how many bottles you need.



That is the idea of the grant,to subsidize the product and get people to realise the diffrence between chlorine and zerochlor and also doing your bit for the environment.



To appreciate the qualities of a zerochlor pool you really do need to be trying it for year to determine what is best for yourself,chlorine or zerochlor.

When you buy chlorine you buy 25kg or 50kg,i dont know many shops selling 1kg of chlorine.

Its possible the cost for a years supply of zerochlor will be arounf the same as 50kg of chlorine,depending on the size of your pool.

But also theres many other things to take into consideration with zerochlor,youll never buy algeaside or floculant like you do when useing chlorine if your useing zerochlor,again a big saving.



Happy chlorine free swimming folks



Bblondie


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Hi Zerochlor

Please tell me do I have to buy a years supply in advance what ever that may be.



zerochlor


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Bblondie.. i feel your question is not a serious one. you had a aligator system fitted just over a year ago,why would you need zerochlor? The aligator system works good doesnt it?



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/14916.asp



Are you not happy with your aligator system?

Yes of course you would buy 1 years supply to get the discount under the the rules of the grant,if i get it,just the same as you buy 1 years supply of chlorine if you use chlorine,but the beauty of zerochlor it doesnt have a shelf life date and wont go off like chlorine does or get weaker.



Please tell me Bblondie. are you not happy with your aligator system? i just find it strange you wish to use both systems together? or maybe you have another pool some where?



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Hi Zerochlor

You are correct I do have an Aligator which I am extremely happy with and I would recommend them to anyone, but I do look after a couple of holiday villa's and one of the owners was asking me about zerochlor.



zerochlor


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Glad you are happy with the aligator,i was worried you had spent all that money and now wanted zerochlor.



How big is the pool of the holiday villa?= how many bottles youll need.



audge


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Please could you explain what an Aligator system is?



TRNCVaughan


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Take a look at

http://www.aligator.co.uk

Aligators actually continually produce silver and copper oxide which are some of the active ingredients of Zerochlor, as I understand it.

Octopus Pools are the agents for Aligator in TRNC.



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dave 8 by 4 meter pool how many bottles for the year please



zerochlor


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cyprusairsoft.



I would say 8 bottles but its always good to have a couple in reserve,so to be on the safe side 10. then you wont be streching the limits of zerochlor in the winter as some people tend to do .



Groucho



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Another lovely thing about Zerochlor (the product) is that it gives your water a lovely bluer than blue aspect.



I have been told it can be used in conjunction with a salt-water pool, reducing the amount of other treatments needed... i.e. flocculation products and shocking etc.



I have used some and it certainly seemed to work in this way. I've been plagued with black and green algae since the first fill of my pool over 4 years ago with very with poor quality water... No chemical treatment seemed to fully resolve it, however since treating with Zerochlor towards the end of last season and some doses of chlorine and Watermaid running it's gone! Hooray!



zerochlor


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Cheers Groucho.



Im smiling here at the thought of you useing three products to keep your pool tip top condition, zerochlors favorite food in a pool is black algea or algea,it loves it and fights it amazing.



Id be happy to hear your comments on your findings with just useing zerochlor ? and of course a oxodizer.



Happy chlorine free swimming folks.



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hello zero, hope you get your grant, maybe some eu tax money going to a good cause for once, does your product get rid of frogs as well? no not the two legged onion eating type , the hoppity type,as my pool apparently now has a thriving throng of croakers, maybe a biblical plague fallen from the sky in the recent rains ??

any body want any frogs?

any restaurant owners out there wanting something different on the menu maybe??



zerochlor


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FishnChips. i also really hope i get the grant,some time next week i will know for sure,fingers crossed,then im sure more people may well be interested in trying the wonders of a chlorine free pool.



Im not sure if zerochlor will get rid of the frogs,i wouldnt of thought so,but as it starts to get a little warmer the little noisey buggers should retreat some where else,i had 2 living in a balance tank for some time,no problems with them,husband and wife team i think they were!!!



Happy chlorine free swimming folks



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Would I still need to use acid to keep ph levels down



Seasider


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Hi Zerochlor,

We are using your product and used previous brand (Poolsan) before for over 2 years. Great for chlorine free swimming but over the last 3 years we have a build up of copper on tiles and also in the filter. We have a skimmer pool. Copper on tiles is difficult to remove - any tips? As far as the filter is concerned we just change the sand but this seems to be an annual event! In the summer we also get a small amount of algae even though Zerochlor, PH and oxygen levels are as per what is recommended. We have also experienced a much higher build up of calcium at the top of the pool mark which we did not experience with chlorine. Is there anything you can suggest to prevent or reduce this? We also seem to have difficulty in getting tablets to test the Zerochlor level and we are running out. Do you sell the electronic test kit for Zerochlor or indeed test tablets? Anybody else having similar problems?

Cheers Seasider



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Nice one Dave you deserve it , Hope you get the final YES on the grant.



Lilli



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well done dave, i hope you get the grant you have worked hard enough for it xx



zerochlor


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Hi seasider. i dont ave any of the tablets for testing copper,they are far to expensive and some customers dont wish to pay it,so i had some test strips made which test for copper.PH. and TA



When useing zerochlor as i always say,its not just a quick fix for your pools, as with chlorine you would give your pool walls a brushing maybe once every month in the summer and maybe once every couple of months in the winter. The walls of a pool do need brushing .



If you are experiencing a little algea at the moment your copper levels will be very low,and you need to check your level , also you say you are experiencing some calcium build up on your walls. this is due to your total alkalinity being to high.also this needs addressing. maybe you should call in the shop on monday and buy yourself a pack of test strips.

if you call in the shop graham i can run through a few fixes with you.



Happy chlorine free swimming folks



Groucho



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Seasider, change the sand? annual event? Blimey, I'm still using the sand from first fill - 4 years!



Zero or Vaughan, how often should filter medium be changed? Mine seems fine and when I last did a backwash spewed out loads of trapped debris in the form of brown water... none seems to be returning to the pool, i.e. cycling round so I'm wondering if I should change it anyway or wait for it to under-perform.



PS what's the cost like for filter sand these days and can you still get the special stuff that traps finer particles?



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Yes you would use PH- also with zerochlor if your PH level was to get to high,controling your PH level in a pool is very important.



PH effects your water quality alot ,when useing zerochlor in your pool your best level for PH is around 7.2 to 7.6. keep your ph around this level and youll maintaine a beautiful pool all year round.



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Sand would normally be changed every 3 or 4 years.or if you do a hand check inside and feel it all starting to clog together then it needs changing.

sand might need topping up depending on how much you really back wash your pool,as you know every time you back wash you loose a little sand.

Groucho.why wait for it to under perform,its not so expensive to change is it ?

Better to keep on top of the pool and the workings i think,makes life easier in the long run and less costly.



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zero this is good news,if you get the grant can i buy 2 years supply at that price if i want or will it be limited to a years supply per person,and after the grant has been used will the price be going back to 22pound,or if it doesnt have a sell by date can i buy 3 years at that price.



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Zero, that's why I asked how much it costs! I've never changed it so don't know... do you?



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Groucho,





We sell sand for 15 for 25kg. We change sand (dig out the old, put in the new, including the cost of the sand) for 1.20 a kilo.



You should change your sand every 3 to 4 years.



Groucho



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Thanks Vaughan,



How many kilo's in one of the red Nozbart filter cylinders for a 10x5 deep pool (100 tonnes) approx?



Also is Zeolyte still an option?



Best guess ballpark figure....



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hi dave good write up in the property mag, well done xx



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groucho. sorry i didnt answer the price of the sand,i missed that part of your question.now you have the price for sand, also i see your other question regarding how much sand,im not familier with the filter you are talking about,no daubt vaughan will tell you the amount of sand needed for it .



My guess ,but only a guess would be around 200 to 250kg. this might come back to shoot me in the foot ! on second thoughts,maybe closer to 300kg, but its only a guess.



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Thanks lilli and johnny lee. yes,i thought the story in the property mag was quite good.



Cheers living property NC .



Happy chlorine free swimming folks.



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Groucho,



Take a look at the technical data sticker on the filter. This will tell you how much sand needed. It will be in Turkish but the kg (kilogramme) number is the one you need.

It could be in the region of 200kg plus (at least it should be for a 10x5m pool!)



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It says 100kg fine sand and 50kg thick sand... typical! Oh well it seems to work and after 4 years that's not bad.



I take it you supply both types.... I think I'm capable of digging out the old and putting in the new. Which goes in first? Fine or thick? Is there anything delicate I need to avoid damaging?



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We can supply both grades. Drop in to Octopus Pools and I will explain all.



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Groucho. seems we were both wrong on the amount of sand.seems a small filter for a big pool.but if its working good,must be the right size.

i dont really think it matters which sand goes in first,it get mixed up once the pool is running,but vaughan will tell you for sure.

Im still learning a little bit more each day.



Happy chlorine free swimming folks.



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message 19 seasider



Graham. ive got what you need at the shop in catalkoy to take off the marks and replenish your tiles look.

We just used the same product today and it works a treat.



Hope to see you soon.



Happy chlorine free swimming folks.



zerochlor


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Just had confirmation of my Grant.



Zerochlor is now discounted and available at the discounted price on a years supply only and until the grant has been used.

Now is a good time for new customers who have been pondering on the idea of trying zerochlor and of course customers who are already useing zerochlor to re-stock.



Happy chlorine free swimming folks.



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Congratulations and so nice to hear your passing on the benefit to your customer.

We may need your advice for a pool that has been constructed for 3 years but left with only a few feet of gunge. Good luck with your business.

JJ



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Hi Dave, a quick question. When should we increase the pump times for our pool - and of course we already use Zerochlor?! It's currently running on 1 hour morning and evening. Our friend who changed over to Zerochlor can't believe the difference in her pool............. another satisfied customer



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Hi booitsme



Janet. i think id change the pump times now to maybe 3 to 4 hours a day.the pool waters feel a little warmer earlier this year than last,or at least thats the feed back im getting from customers.



Maybe two hours in the morning and one hour in the evening at the moment.



Really glad your friend is very happy with Zerochlor, im sure soon enough the majority of people will realise the only way is the ZEROCHLOR WAY !



Happy chlorine free swimming folks.



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Cheers Dave, consider our pool times increased



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janjin. When you say a few feet of gunge,do you mean dirty water and soil,maybe mud?



Sounds like wellington boots time and spade and lots of hard work if your pool is full of gunge/mud?



Not sure what advise you might be looking for,but if your looking for the easiest way of cleaning it ,id say there is not a easy way!



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Gardeners time.. in a pool!

Tis an arcane art, pool cleaning.

All about balance at the end of the day!



zerochlor


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Hey Mark soupseed



Your so right. i have one customer and he checks his PH every other day matter of fact,and his pool is really one of the very best ive ever seen.

And also his other levels.



But he keeps his PH balance perfect,in doing so he has the perfect pool.A zerochlor pool.



Happy chlorine free swimming folks



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Hello Zero ! great product used it last year with good results ! will try catch up tomorrow for some chemicals ! do you have some testing tabs in stock

cheers Barry



zerochlor


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Barry. i dont have the testing tabs. i had strips made that test copper/TA/PH.and ive got plenty .



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Ok Dave thanks see you Weds !



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Hello David,

We are considering looking after our own pool and changing to Zerochlor but would like clearer instructions of chemical's needed and mix etc ? do you provide this or can you suggest where we can find such instructions please. hopefully you have this available thank you.



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Zerochlor - message 39.

SORRY I should have got back to you sooner.

Our pool has been constructed 2 years ago and we are now concerned that it may need inspecting before filling for the first time.

I shouldn't have asked you about this it was unfair and off the topic.

Thank you for trying to answer my question.

Regards jj



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Congratulations, Zerochlor .... it is lovely to hear good news about businesses taking off in the TRNC. Long may it last.



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Message 50.

Janjin. no problem at all,if i can be of any help its a pleasure, if you want the pool inspecting before you get it filled,give us a call and we will arrange the inspection for you.



Angelgirl :message49. i have everything you need if you wish to move over to zerochlor,you do not need to change nothing with your pool,only the chemicals of course.



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Thank you sloan. i hope your enjoying your holidays.



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I wonder how many people would be interested in a swimming pool cleaning course, would you like to save MONEY?

Im sure that if people had the confidence to be able to clean there own pool,they would.



Well that is all going to change very soon.



There is going to be a 1 week course very soon.



Happy chlorine free swimming folks



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Zerochlor, Thanks for the offer of a pool inspection. The pool cleaning course sounds great. Your full of good ideas.



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Well as much as i thought it was a great idea and a money saver.seems theres still lots of people out there who can afford six to seven hundred pounds per year even though they have plenty of time on there hands.



once you know how to clean your own pool,Thirty mins work for yourself twice a week in the summer months, do it in the evening time when its a little cooler,mee thinks its a great idea,as we have all lost about fifty to seventy per cent of our income in the last two years at the bank!



Happy chlorine free swimming folks



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