Ruined church opposite Poppins Bar / Antique Bar

janjin



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Message Posted:
25/10/2010 23:49

Do's anyone on the board know the name of this building?

It is on the hill on the opposite side to the Poppins Bar Bahceli.

It is a small disused building, I think it may have been a place of worship as it looks like it has a small bell tower.

Thanks for any info.

ianwfs


Joined: 08/01/2008
Posts: 563

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 00:05

Is this the place you're talking about?

http://whatson-northcyprus.com/interest/kyrenia/melandryna.htm

Deniz1


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Message Posted:
26/10/2010 06:51

There is also a small ruined chapel behind the Ani resturant in Catlkoy. The tombstones seem to be for greek people.Sometimes there a fresh flowers there.A sad little place but it does not seem to have a name.

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
26/10/2010 07:57

thats my house

Chegwin


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Message Posted:
26/10/2010 08:05

ianwfs

Spot on.

Also worthy of a note about the same site is on the way up to the ruin and over to your left when you get there the whole of that ground was an area for tombs.

You can see that some have been “investigated” or collapsed naturally, but there are many, I believe still intact.

Maybe someone else on here can throw some more info’ regarding the tombs and who dug them and why.

The area, I may add, is constantly watched for obvious reasons.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 09:30

RE ianwfs and Chegwin: East of Girne (Kyrenia): I've spent much of this hot summer collecting up-to-date and on the spot info about Byzantine/medieval monasteries and Greek Orthodox churches (most of them ruined and many on the brink of collapsing). In the next weeks I hope to build many web pages with text and drawings (to compare the present situation with the situation about one hundred years ago), photographs from 2010 and location maps for people who would like to visit such places - before there's nothing to see anymore.

RE msg 1, would a map like this one be helpful enough? Feedback appreciated: http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/Pan_Melandryna_Mon_map_7275.jpg

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
26/10/2010 09:39

Anyone that wants to explore any of these churches please always look at the wooden window frames as there is always one frame that has the date of construction carved into the top lintel. I had a look at one yesterday right at the top of Alsancak and the date was 1843 and although derelict it is obviously still being used as a place of worship (candles, icons etc).

AJ

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
26/10/2010 09:40

This pano-photo may help interested people to find the Panayia Melandryna Monastery also (the street is called Klavuz Sokak): http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/Panorama_main_road_72_75.jpg

And now I stop, otherwise I start building webpages today again...

ianwfs


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Posts: 563

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 09:49

DC. I parked at the point where you indicate the old houses. Walking from there to the church, you almost trip over all the pottery shards.

Going across the fields, southwards, There are numerous rock excavations that, if they are not graves, are certainly not natural, and are crying out to be investigated.

The map would be useful. So many of these places are neither signposted, or included in tourist guides. Like you, I will not put anything on my site unless I have personally visited and taken photos. I was last there about 18 months ago, and it was in a sorry state of repair, and I would say in imminent danger of collapse.

Perhaps we could compare notes. We seem to be doing similar research, with you for in depth historical purposes, and me for more general touristic purposes.

Chegwin


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Posts: 775

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 09:53

That bend wasnt there the other day!!!

ianwfs


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Message Posted:
26/10/2010 10:00

It's part of the extension of the new north coast road link to the marina.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
26/10/2010 10:01

RE msg 7, AJ: Such Greek Orthodox Churches, usually clumsily built during the Ottoman rule of Cyprus, are considered young churches and are of no historical/architectural interest. Top examples of Greek Orthodox churches and monasteries date from mainly the Byzantine and sometimes the Frankish (Crusader) era.

In the mountains East of Girne one can find many places where (most probably Greek speaking) Cypriots still worship: http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/DSCN7742_72.jpg

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
26/10/2010 10:06

RE msg 10, Chegwin: (...) That bend wasnt there the other day!!! (...)

=> ! Sorry, it's a cheating photograph indeed, but I saw no better way. The pano-photo consists of seven pictures stitched together. Chegwin, I DO hope you can forgive me...

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
26/10/2010 10:11

RE msg 9, ianwfs: (...) Perhaps we could compare notes. We seem to be doing similar research, with you for in depth historical purposes, and me for more general touristic purposes. (...)

=> I'm very interested to discuss this! This week is difficult for appointments (Dutch visitors), but next week can be done. I'll mail you later today or tomorrow. Good idea! Regards, Hans Doeleman

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
26/10/2010 10:27

RE msg 3, deniz1: (...) greek people (...)

=> I don't want to be pedantic (although I usually am, I know... ), but just for the record: the people you mean are not Greeks, they were - after thousands of years on the island - "Greek speaking Cypriots" or historically less exact "Greek Cypriots".

Chegwin


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Posts: 775

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 10:56

Forgiven Dutch.

I’d have had to stick a knee out where I never stuck one out before hitting that at 90!!

Great work though. Keep the supply of this kind of stuff coming. It is great for those who have not seen this kind of stuff and to let them know where they are. Maybe a pile of old rocks to some but with just a bit more information, that you provide, and an individual’s imagination more can be gleaned from site visits.

janjin



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 23:13

I'm so glad I asked now and finally I know a little about the place.

Thank you for the photos Hans and Ian and the information.

Dave I would love to see if the monstery has a date on one of the lintels but it is in quite a state, a hard hat area!

Apologies for the late reply.

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 06:21

Msg 15 Sorry Hans slapped wrists for me.My husband was a greek cypriot and he always said he was greek so its just force of habit wont do it again.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 14:08

Full illustrated story (text, detailed pictures and location maps) here: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/48441.asp

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 19:33

visited it in July this year seems to be used as shelter for goats...the damage to the buiding looked like earthquake damage to me as well as the general ageing

janjin



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Posts: 488

Message Posted:
28/10/2010 12:54

Thanks again Hans, your work is really appreciated by us.