any ideas how to bring dog from larnaca to trnc border

khristy


Joined: 14/05/2010
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Message Posted:
27/08/2010 02:21

hi

we booked our flight to ercan including our dog last week with turkish airways, two days later turkish airways changed the weight limit to 32kg, so now we are still taking the flight and our dog is coming via the south two days later, but we need to collect him and crate (he ia a large dog) from larnaca to the border.

if anyone has done this or has an idea it would be much appreciated.

snd1966


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Posts: 353

Message Posted:
27/08/2010 05:50

In 2004 my collie and I arrived in Larnaca, due to the fact when he received the rabies jab he turned very snappy and it was decided the least people he encountered on the journey the better. I used Papikos cost 300 Cyprus pounds to only find out my husband who was here could have picked me up. Make sure the Ministry of Agriculture know you are coming as they met us at the border and due to coming in from the south he was given 60 days quarantine which he handled a lot better than me. Mainly this was due to me not personally approaching those in charge and asking in the correct manner but believing Papikos and the people in London knew what they were doing to find out they had only done it the week before and upset the Ministry by quoting laws etc and not actually asking.

stellasstar1



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Message Posted:
27/08/2010 08:09

In 2004 the rules were different to today. This s a tricky one as some say you cannot brng animals across the green line, and then you here about some people who have, so check with the authorities here, not England, as they don't understand the rules here. Who does !!!! You could also try KAR as they probably have up to date information. Someone I know came across from Larnaca in their car with a German Shepherd on a Pet Passport and were just let through, but I think they were lucky as the Pet Passport doesn't really count here, but it's good to have one if just to prove that your animal is healthy and fit for travel. Good luck.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
27/08/2010 08:10

Have they changed the rules then, it was my understanding that you could not bring animals across the border.

malsancak


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Message Posted:
27/08/2010 08:13

I saw a cat walk across by itself.

wattys


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Message Posted:
27/08/2010 10:31

Quite a few dogs walking over wearing lipstick

Smiffies


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Message Posted:
27/08/2010 12:19

Hi, we relocated our dog from Dubai to here in May of this year and prior to her journey made enquiries with shipping agents in Dubai and local authorities in Cyprus, both North and South on the requirements for export/ import.



Unfortunately, at that time, domestic animals/ pets were not allowed to cross the Green Line, therefore we had to import our dog into Ercan via Istanbul, with all the usual jabs, tests and paperwork etc in place.



I know it seems a bit of a farce because what stops the indigenous animals and birds etc coming and going as they please?



However, if you want your pet with you here its best to comply with the rules.



Regards smiffies

waddo


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Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
27/08/2010 14:20

I find this strange that you can have so much hassle getting your pet into the country when I have seen lots of South registered cars with their small dogs in with the passengers! Maybe they just stuff them in a bag when they come through the borders? Have even seen a dog resting on the back window ledge at night time coming into the North via Pila - day trip or permanent who knows but I have seen it with my own eyes so know for sure it happens.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/08/2010 21:30

Bring it over in a wheelie bin )

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
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Message Posted:
28/08/2010 06:52

I believe if you fly in to the south a pet passport is required. As they say get the information from the Horse's mouth, explain to the Ministry your position ie no airline can fly your dog into the north. I am sure someone will be able to help you if you explain it calmly and politely as the the ones in charge do really like to please as long as you show great respect for their position.



I know when they saw my collie and how he could react to things 'out the box' they were very understanding why we wanted to reduce human contact while travelling and indeed in quarantine. He got 30 days knocked of the 90 he was originally given.

cyprusjoker


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Message Posted:
28/08/2010 11:26

Very Good No 1

cyprusairsoft



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Message Posted:
28/08/2010 11:33

pet passport no longer recon in trnc

stellasstar1



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Message Posted:
29/08/2010 11:23

Message 10, who gave him 90 days? Most dogs are home quarantined now.

keithcaley



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Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
29/08/2010 11:53

cyprusairsoft,

As I'm sure you know, TRNC are no longer allowed (because of Greek / Greek Cypriot pressure) to be part of the Pet Passport Scheme, or to issue Pet Passports which would be recognised by the other participants in the scheme.

However, I have found that, as a matter of practicality, on a day-to-day basis, the TRNC Veterinary department does appear to regard the Pet Passport as 'supporting evidence' that an animal is fit. When I brought my two cats over, I was asked for their Pet Passports by the head man at the Quarantine place, despite having handed over all the documentation, signed by a UK Vet, that was specified!

I hadn't bothered to get Pet Passports for them, as I had been advised that TRNC were no longer in the scheme, so I said that they were in my container on a ship somewhere - He was perfectly happy with that explanation...

iceman


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Posts: 724

Message Posted:
29/08/2010 12:04

Keith

How can TRNC be allowed to be a part of the EU Pet Passport Scheme when EU has no control over the incoming animals from Turkey?

If you did not know,there is Rabies in Turkey and TRNC ports are not strict enough towards incoming pets from Turkey.



On the other hand, it is only logical & sensible for the trnc veterinary dept to accept the Pet Passport as 'supporting evidence' that an animal is fit, if they are coming from an EU country.

keithcaley



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Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
29/08/2010 12:08

Mustafa,

I am in entire agreement with you, as always

Let's just hope that none of those Turkish pets wander across the Green Line, and bite any of our friends in the South

mollycorbin


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Posts: 390

Message Posted:
29/08/2010 13:17

khristy,

This is the 3rd time I have read on this board that Turkish airlines changed the weight limit. How were you informed? I cannot find this on their website. Please advise as I am concerned for my future travels.

Thank you.

khristy


Joined: 14/05/2010
Posts: 181

Message Posted:
29/08/2010 17:47

mollycorbin

it was changed about a week ago and i found out though the travel agent that i had booked my flights with, found out after booked and payed.

the limit is 32kg so if it is a big dog and then crate on top you can be way over.

tracy


Joined: 08/09/2007
Posts: 390

Message Posted:
29/08/2010 18:21

Hi we had that trouble and decided to drive here, our English mastiff was too tall for the hold opening, with allowance for the cage to fit through, she is a very big dog, never even asked her weight, it went of the height of the crate!!!

Dont suppose she would be allowed on though as she is more than double yours (72 kilos)



We decided to drive because of the rules always changing,, it was fine but would not do it in the warm months, we went down every possible route to get her here, they would not allow us to fly into Larnaca and cross the border at all.

Hope you find an answer, as its quite worrying when it is your pet.

Tracy

flightholiday


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Posts: 3217

Message Posted:
06/09/2010 13:08

Melanie - Msg 17. We have two clients currently with pet transit and came across the same problem as a late change of rules. One (alfie) is due through Larnaca with us in two weeks and another client in October with two dogs Pipa and Bailey.

It is difficult but we are happy to help.

blade


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Message Posted:
06/09/2010 15:00

I have recently been told that if the dog is in the south as long as it has a pet passport and you get the correct trnc paperwork then it will get permissions to come via the greenline.

This I understand is due to the airline situation.

But as always it can be subject to change at any time!

iceman


Joined: 15/08/2008
Posts: 724

Message Posted:
06/09/2010 16:22

I have also heard the same as above...As long as the animals have a pet passport and vaccinations including Rabies is in place,an import licence application can be made to the veterinary dept for the necessary permission to be issued for the import of pets from south to north.

There is a downloadable sample of the application form on Kyrenia animal rescue website..

http://www.kyreniaanimalrescue.org/petstocyprus.html

khristy


Joined: 14/05/2010
Posts: 181

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 00:12

mollycorbin msg 17

we have booked alfie tho tom at flightholiday, he has done a great job sorting it all out ,especially after having to change the flight,

he is well worth talking to and getting a quote

and very very helpfull.

the only thing i am having to sort out now is how to get alfie and crate to trnc border.

mollycorbin


Joined: 12/03/2010
Posts: 390

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 04:59

Khristy, thanks for the information and for sharing your ordeal. It has been helpful. I will contact flightholiday as suggested. Good luck with the rest of the trip.

iceman


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Message Posted:
07/09/2010 07:23

khristy

Have you not contacted the person i suggested?

gwendoline


Joined: 08/06/2009
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Message Posted:
07/09/2010 08:01

I would advise anyone thinking of bringing a pet into the TRNC strongly against doing so. Veterinary services are quite abysmal. The vets are trained in Istanbul and the level of training they receive is very poor compared to most European countries. There has been a recent rise in horror stories concerning some of the vets practicing in Kyrenia and would tend to agree with another writer that with the exception of administering the annual innoculations, plugging in a saline drip or lopping off the occasional limb which if they had been trained properly and drugs and equipment were available, would not in most cases be necessary.

When the time comes to put you animal to sleep,as it might do sooner than you think, the medicine used here is NOT I repeat NOT the barbiturate type used in most civilized societies but is called T61. You really don't want to know how it works but at least the latest version T61 does contain an anesthetic which just about masks the more unpleasant effects.

mollycorbin


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Posts: 390

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 09:40

gwendoline, I mean really.... we would need to read about specifics and facts to take your post seriously. No one expects cutting edge technology here. My vet has been wonderful with my dogs.

Tinkie


Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 10:19

gwendoline....words fail me. My animals have always received wonderful care from our vet and I would not hesitate in recommending her to anyone. I brought my dog over from the UK, and would not have contemplated leaving her behind, she was part of our family.... The technology here is not on par with the UK, but the care from the vets certainly is....as for what you have to say about the drug used for putting your animal to sleep, for gods sake, please....having an animal put to sleep is a terribly stressful and painful desicion for any animal lover, they really dont need to read that to add to it.

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 10:31

I think the vets here are fantastic and far better than the ones I used in the UK, very caring and nothing is too much trouble.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 10:39

Pugwash I have to agree with you, my vet is great with my lot and has shown more care and attention than they ever had in UK .

gwendoline


Joined: 08/06/2009
Posts: 13

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 11:23

Pleased to hear that you have had a positive experience with your vet hear. As for T61 do your own research if you like or continue to bury your heads in the sand.

stellasstar1



Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 1519

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 11:33

I cannot believe what gwendoline has said. I have been here 4 1/2 years with my cats brought from England, and they survived the flight, quarantine, 2 different houses, different climate, visits to the vet (who is great), and anything else that might be different to England. How can she tell people to leve their animals back n England?

Tinkie


Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 11:49

Gwendoline, I really think you should show some respect and stay off of the subject of putting animals to sleep here. What would you suggest people do when their beloved animal is very sick and needs to be put out of their misery and pain....for heavens sake have some bloody compassion and leave it alone!

gwendoline


Joined: 08/06/2009
Posts: 13

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 12:02

...and continue to shoot the messenger without addressing the issue. All the info is out there folks and that is what the original post was asking for, information not wishful thinking.

gwendoline


Joined: 08/06/2009
Posts: 13

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 12:04

...and continue to shoot the messenger without addressing the issue. All the info is out there folks and that is what the original post was asking for, information not wishful thinking.

khristy


Joined: 14/05/2010
Posts: 181

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 12:05

iceman

yes i have sent him an e mail, but heard nothing back



glad to here that a lot of you have had good experiences with vets

thank you

Cyberwar


Joined: 05/03/2010
Posts: 72

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 14:54

Khristy



Past experiences of bringing 3 dogs in 2 batches from the UK directly into TRNC before Pet passports.

I am also assuming that the weight allowance is not a cost issue and you can get them legally into the South.

-Dogs have adjusted and love the climate and ability to spend a larger time outside.

-Vets are fine and reasonable. Don't have the equipment of the Royal Veterinary Collage, nor does your UK vet. My eldest recently had a tumour removed and op. and pathology fine.

-The quarantine is basic and you need to provide all care and cleaning 2X a day

-The department are very reasonable providing they know what is happening and will make arrangements. If they feel all is OK will take all into account, presumably including Pet Passports, and minimise quarantine accordingly.

-Providing the driver agrees I don't see any problem in using any form of transport to the Border. If you have difficulty let me know.

iceman


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Message Posted:
07/09/2010 15:00

khristy

Just spoke to him and he will be replying back to you as soon as (maybe today or tomorrow) he gets a quote from the Vito driver.

iceman


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Message Posted:
07/09/2010 15:06

khristy

check your mail...

blade


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Message Posted:
07/09/2010 15:48

I have to agree that the vets here are not as qualified as vets are in the uk. Fact, sad but true.

I would say just choose your vet with care, don't choose a vet because they are local to you, choose one you think is fit to do the job.

Putting animals to sleep, we had to do it with our dog last year as he was extreamly ill, elderly and had no chance of recovery. He was given a massive dose of anesthetic and died peacefully. I don't regret for one minute putting him out of the pain he was suffering, he had a good life and retirement in the TRNC.

I don't see how anyone can think thats either cruel or unkind.??



There are lots of vets here, but very few real vets. Something mine once said to me!!

khristy


Joined: 14/05/2010
Posts: 181

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 15:48

iceman thanks,

cyberwar thanks for that news, alfie was coming into ecran , but had to change as weight , he is part of our family so could not leave him behind, got the pet passport and spoken to trnc dept and so far so good fingers crossed

Davliz


Joined: 14/05/2010
Posts: 42

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 22:44

Iceman,

We are the other dog owners mentioned by Tom at Flight holidays who are bringing our two dogs(labradors) over via Larnaca on October 8 having been let down by Turkish airlines.We are having the same problem as Kristy in obtaining transport from Larnaca to Metahan.Can you give me the name of your contact who may be able to help.I believe that the crate is not required as soon as you get the dogs through customs at Larnaca.My email is daboden@live.co.uk

I Would also like to say that Tom at Flight Holidays has been fantastic for making our arrangements and KAR were a great source of advice.Dr Mehment at the quarantine kennels has been exceptionally helpful-a telephone call is all it takes to a very nice man.

We are so looking forward to moving here at last after 10 years of buying our house in Karsiyaka!